Welcome again to everybody. Make yourself at home. In the time-honoured tradition of our group, here is the weekly discussion thread.

On Sunday last week, Damascus fell to Salafi terrorists and other imperialist-aligned forces. Regardless of the flaws of the ousted government, this is a horrible situation for the Syrian proletariat as well as for the people of Palestine, Lebanon and others. We can only hope for the perseverance of the Syrian workers and the remaining anti-colonial resistance.

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    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      13·
      22 days ago

      in the global class war, they served the purpose of desestabilizing Syria, which like it or not was struggling against US imperialism.

      • multitotal@lemmygrad.ml
        27·
        22 days ago

        But they didn’t destabilise Syria. They fought ISIS who threatened their existance. They created an autonomous region to govern themselves because there was no SAA or Syrian government presence. SAA was not able to defend people in that region from ISIS.

        DAANES (they were formerly AANES) had always stated that their goal is to preserve the integrity and sovereignty of Syria. They wanted to be an autonomous region under the Syrian constitution. They didn’t want to separate or declare independence.

        Syrian government and SDF were in negotiations (slow and rocky) but they did have a dialogue and limited cooperation.

        • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          13·
          22 days ago

          As graineater said, they collaborated with the US to steal Syria’s oil. This group is completely backed by the US and wouldn’t exist without their support, like it can’t get more blatantly obvious.

          Their internal policies are irrelevant, they are US stooges and their funds come from imperialism.

          • multitotal@lemmygrad.ml
            11·
            21 days ago

            So what should happen to Rojava and the Kurds and minorities in it? If DAANES disappears, the HTS and SNA will genocide/ethnically cleanse the Kurds.

            What would be the communist and anti-imperialist thing to do in their situation?

            • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              7·
              21 days ago

              What would be the communist and anti-imperialist thing to do in their situation?

              Not doing the US dirty work?

              Far from being based on a single ‘relation of coercion’, the world capitalist system is a tangle of multiple and contradictory ‘relations of coercion’. What determines the ultimate location of an individual (and group) in the camp of the ‘oppressor’ or of the ‘oppressed’ is the hierarchical ordering of these social relations in accordance with their political and social relevance in a determinate concrete situation, on the one hand, and the political choice of the single individual (or group), on the other. - Domenico Losurdo on Class Struggle.

              • multitotal@lemmygrad.ml
                13·
                19 days ago

                Not doing the US dirty work?

                And that means not defending themselves against ISIS.

                Is ideological purity more important than survival?

                • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                  5·
                  19 days ago

                  The dichotomy between nations with a rich history and historyless ‘small states’ was now replaced by that between nations and nationalities. The picture is not much clearer as a consequence. But the theoretical and political crux emerges unequivocally: affirmation of the principle of self-determination does not necessarily entail support for the agitation of ‘small states’ or ‘nationalities’. Engels’ most questionable, or even utterly unacceptable, pages are precisely those that raise a problem of great contemporary relevance: there are countless separatist movements instrumentally encouraged or supported by great powers which are protagonists of national oppression on a large scale. It may even turn out that recognizing a particular people’s self-determination strengthens the main enemy of the liberation movement of oppressed peoples as a whole. We must not lose sight of the conflict of liberties that can arise. In other words, the mutilation of class struggles must be rejected. But that does not mean ignoring the problem whereby a historical situation (especially a major historical crisis) can require a ranking of class struggles.

                  why are you talking about “ideological purity” ? I don’t support US stooges, regardless of their ideology, this does not mean i support ISIS either which is also an US stooge, they very well could be getting training in the US bases the SDF hosts or getting weapons through them.

                  • multitotal@lemmygrad.ml
                    24·
                    19 days ago

                    they very well could be getting training in the US bases the SDF hosts or getting weapons through them.

                    You can’t just say things like that without evidence. If you claim ISIS is training on DAANES territory, then you should back that claim up.

                    I have a problem with the “US stooge” label. We can recognise Rojava cooperates with the US, we can say they receive help, money, training, weapons… but we don’t have to rob Rojava of agency. Why can’t cooperation with the US be a temporary, necessary measure on their part, rather than an essential quality?

            • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
              2·
              18 days ago

              the HTS and SNA will genocide/ethnically cleanse the Kurds.

              Which is exactly what the usa wants to happen. This is exactly why the usa supported both ISIS, and the SDF. The suffering is their goal. Keep everyone fighting so they can keep oil prices low.

              What would be the communist and anti-imperialist thing to do in their situation?

              Revolutionary defeatism. Don’t pick any side in the fight between the imperialists and the local bourgeois ruling class. Wait to see if the local government will fail while organizing a communist (not ethnic or religious) resistance to whom ever wins the fight. Save energy to fight when the victor is weakest instead of weakening themselves fighting for promises from the great satan that will undoubtibly be broken.