• Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I find the opposite more annoying. If your memory of those events is accurate there’s plenty of things to point to to back it up.

    But then you have older people like my father who…I don’t know, something has completely rewritten their memories of significant events to the point where he claims many things happened differently than verifiable recorded history. It’s impossible to argue with that because of him seeing me pointing out that’s not true as an attack and accusing him of lying.

    • skyspydude1@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      My favorite was arguing with a much older (late 70s) friend of my dad’s about how Obama ruined the economy and stock market, and when I told him that was objectively not true and the GFC was in full swing well before Obama was even elected, he was like “I know because I owned stocks and stuff, how would you even know?” Even when I pulled up a graph of the S&P 500 and showed the days he was elected and sworn in, he just said “Oh, that can’t be right, the graph must be wrong”. Showing the DOW and other composites from multiple sources did nothing to convince him. He was absolutely positive his retirement fund was doing great up until Obama was elected.

      Yes Jerry, I’m sure that the entire stock market was just wrong, and it’s not the fact you consume nothing but FOX News and will only refer to the 44th president as “The N*gger” potentially causing a bit of bias.

    • Sagifurius@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      Or maybe someone rewrote the books. I’ve long had a suspicion a lot of the Mandela effect is just people with long memories who missed the propaganda rewrite.

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I really hope this is just missing the /s at the end.

        But in case it isn’t…

        Which is more likely? That all the media outlets have gone through all of their records and replaced them with different records and all the books out there have been trashed and replaced with new books saying different things and the internet has been scrubbed of all of the real stories and photos and replaced with fake ones? Or that a few misguided people, who weren’t paying very close attention in the first place, misremembered an event?

      • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        I find it strange that people somehow mistrust all of the news and history of today but think the very same news sources and historians of the past were somehow accurate.

        The news is written in a hurry. History is written with perspective. Both are drawing upon the same sources in the modern era except the history has more time to cross reference them. It is only natural that we get a better, clearer version of history as time and research is allowed to work on it.

        • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          11 months ago

          I’m convinced humans have some kind of natural inherent fetishization of “old knowledge”.

          If it happened outside of living memory they somehow knew more or had special magical knowledge we just don’t understand or can’t interpret from our perspective. The older, the more true people can be convinced that it is.

          As if there is some kind of “platonic ideal” of thoughts or ideas from which all others are derived from, where the further back something back it is, it MUST be more true

      • Surreal@programming.dev
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        11 months ago

        What would you think if your parents say it’s time to put you up for adoption every time you get into an argument? What a fucking weird thing to get upset over and think of throwing your parents away just because of an argument

        • funktion@lemm.ee
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          11 months ago

          What a weirdly aggressive comment, calm down. It’s a comment section on the internet, don’t get so emotional.