A key figure behind Star Trek's classic era has likened the shortened seasons of modern TV to the equivalent of a Tinder relationship, and said he hoped the sci-fi franchise would return to 22-episode seasons.
Everyone’s in here arguing and dissecting filler episodes and serialized seasons and I see a lot of good arguments on both sides. But, no one is mentioning a modern Trek series that did a mix of filler episodes and episodic ones, developed characters, and had full season arcs: Lower Decks
Granted, it’s a cartoon so it’s much easier for a deus ex machina or goofy cop-out ending but for 10ish 30 minutes episodes a season, they did a great job of telling modern stories while feeling like Trek ClassicTM
Because there was so, so much memberberries.
I found it mostly somewhar funny, but I don’t know if I got half the jokes if I hadn’t watched Old Trek so much.
I would argue that it was a good show even without all of that but the nostalgia made it more fun for sure. LD had great writers who told interesting stories. And, it could go from strange and campy to highbrow and serious from one scene to the next but they were also telling stories with through lines and arcs and still providing the filler.
To be fair, I haven’t watched Discovery or much Strange New Worlds yet, so I could be off base. But, it seems like Strange New Worlds is trying to thread that needle.
Discovery is what people dint like(the klingons and thier strange appearance, cloaking tech before encoutering the ROMULANs, plus a ship that had technology that was pretty much centuries ahead of them at the time(they couldnt even tie it in that good when they WENT into the future to escape an AI(which was actually to escape the klingons discontinuity by Kurtzman), Picard was also pretty bad, it suffered the same end of season problems that STD, just dropped or the “big bad” was a bad storyline.
I wouldn’t say got all the jokes, but His Lordship enjoyed the fuck outta LD and he barely remembers any trek outside of some next gen and only knows DS9 through forced repeated exposure.
Different levels, but we had the same fun. We both absolutely lost it at the resolution in Strange Energies, some things are just universal
I’m a bit surprised that anyone would bother to note a downvote, let alone dig deep enough to investigate who downvoted and then specifically call them (me) out in the comments. It feels over the top and borderline malicious.
As to why I downvoted in this case, two reasons:
discussion of someone’s pet name for a family member seems very irrelevant in this case, not particularly “contributing to the conversation”. I get why the question was asked and answered but it seems so far from anything important, especially now that it’s been explained.
it bothers me that someone would write as if the reader should be expected to somehow know who their husband is, let alone by reference to their pet name.
Lastly, I don’t know why someone would ever be so invested in up- or down-votes at all. It’s not like the fediverse has the Reddit concept of “Karma” or whatever one wants to call fake internet points. It’s disappointing to have a negative total on a post sure but it’s completely ephemeral and irrelevant to one’s life.
As an old trekkie I’d be somewhat inclined to agree with you. But then I remember when I tried to get my ex into Star Trek and, while she enjoyed it, Lower Decks is the only one she actually loved and she was really sad when it ended. By the time we broke up she had just started her second run of LD.
But, no one is mentioning a modern Trek series that did a mix of filler episodes and episodic ones, developed characters, and had full season arcs: Lower Decks
lower decks is 10 episodes per season, what exactly is “full season” in this context?
Everyone’s in here arguing and dissecting filler episodes and serialized seasons and I see a lot of good arguments on both sides. But, no one is mentioning a modern Trek series that did a mix of filler episodes and episodic ones, developed characters, and had full season arcs: Lower Decks
Granted, it’s a cartoon so it’s much easier for a deus ex machina or goofy cop-out ending but for 10ish 30 minutes episodes a season, they did a great job of telling modern stories while feeling like Trek ClassicTM
Because there was so, so much memberberries.
I found it mostly somewhar funny, but I don’t know if I got half the jokes if I hadn’t watched Old Trek so much.
I would argue that it was a good show even without all of that but the nostalgia made it more fun for sure. LD had great writers who told interesting stories. And, it could go from strange and campy to highbrow and serious from one scene to the next but they were also telling stories with through lines and arcs and still providing the filler.
To be fair, I haven’t watched Discovery or much Strange New Worlds yet, so I could be off base. But, it seems like Strange New Worlds is trying to thread that needle.
Discovery is what people dint like(the klingons and thier strange appearance, cloaking tech before encoutering the ROMULANs, plus a ship that had technology that was pretty much centuries ahead of them at the time(they couldnt even tie it in that good when they WENT into the future to escape an AI(which was actually to escape the klingons discontinuity by Kurtzman), Picard was also pretty bad, it suffered the same end of season problems that STD, just dropped or the “big bad” was a bad storyline.
I wouldn’t say got all the jokes, but His Lordship enjoyed the fuck outta LD and he barely remembers any trek outside of some next gen and only knows DS9 through forced repeated exposure.
Different levels, but we had the same fun. We both absolutely lost it at the resolution in Strange Energies, some things are just universal
His Lordship?
nickname for the husband
Gotcha
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Not sure I should be engaging here but are you seriously stalking downvotes?
I was just curious. Seemed really weird to downvote.
Alright, I’ll bite.
I’m a bit surprised that anyone would bother to note a downvote, let alone dig deep enough to investigate who downvoted and then specifically call them (me) out in the comments. It feels over the top and borderline malicious.
As to why I downvoted in this case, two reasons:
Lastly, I don’t know why someone would ever be so invested in up- or down-votes at all. It’s not like the fediverse has the Reddit concept of “Karma” or whatever one wants to call fake internet points. It’s disappointing to have a negative total on a post sure but it’s completely ephemeral and irrelevant to one’s life.
As an old trekkie I’d be somewhat inclined to agree with you. But then I remember when I tried to get my ex into Star Trek and, while she enjoyed it, Lower Decks is the only one she actually loved and she was really sad when it ended. By the time we broke up she had just started her second run of LD.
lower decks is 10 episodes per season, what exactly is “full season” in this context?
lower decks/prodigy was so much better than the 3 “live” series.