Imagine if ICE ordered your plane to land and they arrest all the passengers and flight attendants to bring into their torture facilities.

  • MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    Do you mean flights that fly directly to Mexico from Canada?

    Otherwise, you should be fine. ICE doesn’t have jurisdiction over the FAA and can’t just order random planes down. Especially planes from one country to another with no intervening stops in America. What on Earth would the rationale be? “Hey, citizens of other countries who had no intention of entering the US, we’ve kidnapped you and now you’re stuck here!”

    There are plenty of valid concerns and fears about America but having them ground international, non US bound flights would be a nonsensical international incident with 0 gain.

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      17 days ago

      They can’t just go to Venezuela and blow up people and boats, yet there they are doing it.

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          17 days ago

          And I ask the same about ordering planes down. They can if they want to. Laws are now what the gop says they are. So why can’t they take down a plane ? Because of a law ?

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            17 days ago

            Because laws governing the United States actions within the States are very different than international law.

            There are actually mechanisms, enforcement, oversight and so on. ICE taking control of the FAA would at least be a lengthy court battle first. It’s why Trump hasn’t been able to fire Lisa Cook, why Kilmar was brought back etc.

            There is no similar restraint on American military actions outside of America.

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                17 days ago

                No, just a reasonable assumption of risk and reality.

                If we’re going by nonsense at the outer bounds, trump could just nuke whateber country tomorrow. Oh, you’re still going about your life? Guess you have faith in nazis.

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      14 days ago

      No, but if there is an emergency results in a plane landing in the US everyone is deplaned, what happens next? Who knows anymore.

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        14 days ago

        As much as we rightly villify ICE, this just doesn’t make much sense.

        Even operationally, you’d have to assume they have guys just sitting around waiting. And then, for some reason someone alerts them to an international flight landing so they bust through the apart to detain people who had never intended to visit?

        What I could see happening is sure, you have to use a motel or something while they figure out alternate arrangements, the hospitality industry being legendary for a not entirely legal workforce means there’s a chance you get raided there? But this is stretching the bounds of credulity pretty gosh darned far.