cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/36106706
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- 58:04.000 - 58:14.309 Endcards/Credits
Video Description:
Metal Gear Red Podcast Episode #4 The Assassination of Charlie Kirk
Featuring:
- Chris Helali - https://x.com/ChrisHelali
- Haz Al-Din - https://x.com/InfraHaz
- Eddie Liger Smith - https://x.com/EdbieLigerSmith
- Kyle Pettis: https://x.com/KylePettisX
- Noah Khrachvik: https://x.com/khrachvik
Timestamps:
- 00:00- Initial Reactions
- 5:24- Who Benefits?
- 11:50- Deep State Involvement?
- 21:52- Persecution & Reactions of The Left
Generated Summary:
Charlie Kirk Assassination: Metal Gear Red #4 - A Summary
This podcast episode discusses the assassination of Charlie Kirk and its potential implications, with panelists sharing their initial reactions and analyzing who might benefit from his death. The conversation explores themes of political violence, the rise of nihilism, and the potential for a new civil war in America.
Key Points:
- Initial Reactions: Panelists express shock and concern, with some noting the event confirms their fears about increasing political violence and the erosion of American liberties.
- Russia’s Perspective: A panelist based in Moscow shares that the reaction in Russia combines Kirk’s assassination with another killing, viewing both as tragic and indicative of the U.S.'s decline.
- Echoes of the Past: One panelist draws parallels to Nat Turner’s rebellion and the political violence leading up to the Civil War, suggesting America is heading towards a similar conflict.
- Propaganda and Information War: The assassination is seen as a significant event in the information war, with questions raised about who benefits and how the ruling class will exploit the situation.
- Selective Outrage: A panelist questions the selective outrage surrounding Kirk’s death, pointing to other forms of suffering and violence that don’t elicit the same response.
- Moral Nihilism: The discussion highlights a growing moral and political nihilism that devalues human life and makes people insensitive to the significance of death.
- Martyrdom and Manipulation: Some panelists suggest that Kirk is being turned into a martyr to elevate extreme right-wing ideologies, drawing parallels to events in Ukraine where a journalist’s murder was used to incite a coup.
- Deep State Involvement: The possibility of deep state involvement in the assassination is raised, with some suggesting it could have been orchestrated to create the current climate of division and repression.
- The Grayzone Article: The panel references an article detailing concerns within the Trump administration about Israel’s influence in U.S. politics and Kirk’s own reservations about Israel, suggesting this may have made him a target.
- Uniting the Right: Kirk’s death is seen as a unifying force for the right, bringing together factions that were previously divided over issues like Trump’s association with Epstein and the conflict in Gaza.
- Dangers of Left-Wing Reactions: Panelists caution against celebrating Kirk’s death, arguing that it provides ammunition for the right and empowers a crackdown on left-wing forces.
- The Need for a United Front: The discussion emphasizes the need for a serious left-wing movement to counter the rising fascist right and defend against the erosion of constitutional rights.
- Capacity for Violence: Panelists argue that while the liberal left may be quick to mock and criticize, the right has a greater capacity for committing serious violence.
Highlighted Information:
- “This is the American Gladio.” - A panelist compares the current political climate to the “years of lead” in Italy, marked by assassinations and political violence.
- “United States is in decline.” - The Russian perspective is highlighted, emphasizing a sense of mourning combined with a view of America’s decline.
- “Who benefits?” - This question is repeatedly posed, urging listeners to critically analyze the motivations and potential beneficiaries of Kirk’s assassination.
- “They’re making him into a martyr in order to elevate who, you know, fascist uh extreme right uh degenerate.” - This statement encapsulates the concern that Kirk’s death is being used to promote dangerous ideologies.
- “Celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk in the eyes of your average American is suicidal.” - This warning highlights the potential consequences of insensitive or celebratory reactions from the left.
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Official American Communist Party
Edit:
- Word, The Greyzone to The Grayzone
These are the MAGA communist people, right?
I think Jackson Hinkle was pushing that to convert some MAGA people to communists or to move them to the left on working-class issues.
That experiment was interesting; I’m not sure if it worked, but it did go viral on some social media platforms.
I do remember reading legacy media articles about MAGA Communism.
Feel free to reply with criticism or more information if you get the time to research a bit more.