• TWeaK@feddit.uk
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      10 days ago

      The lemm.ee admin is a shit hot developer though, his instance was generally more robust than all the others, and he helped other instances when they had various problems. It’s a shame he wasn’t the lead lemmy developer, although I’m sure he doesn’t have the time for such a big undertaking.

      • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 days ago

        I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.

        Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !

    • Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      most of the admins left due to stress, or lack of hiring. thats why its shutting down.

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          11 days ago

          I do see why you’re saying that, but a server without admins would rapidly become a breeding ground for entirely illegal discussions, and it would be at least defederated pretty rapidly

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            10 days ago

            Yeah but like who’s gonna get mad if there’s no corporate to report to. There’s no ad space to sell. So you are spending energy moderation to what end?

            I’m just trying to understand the setup I guess. I just assumed people started lemmy to get away from over moderation on reddit. I been here since the api crackdown on reddit.

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            11 days ago

            oh yea thats why alot of them dissociated with the tankies, and some illegal porn ones, especially csam.

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          10 days ago

          i think the point is that there is no single lemmy server - so if you want to put in the work and set up a server you never check up on, yeah sure whatever this isn’t legal advice.

          But also, if people wanna set up a space that bans the most obnoxious behavior while cultivating real conversation, they can do that too.

        • Ledericas@lemm.ee
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          11 days ago

          moderating is for mods. admins are there to keep lemmy.ee running. much like reddit still needs admins to run things, minus thier ability to ban accounts arbitrarily.

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          11 days ago

          No, the point of Lemmy is to be decentralized and non-corporate. It has nothing to do with monitoring or moderating.

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          11 days ago

          No, the point is that it’s not controlled by any one megacorp or nation state. Being an open social media platform it’s still going to have shitty people trying to attack its infrastructure to try to silence others or tilt voting the way they want or just chaotically troll the hell out of people. Admins are needed to protect it from that.

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          11 days ago

          You just made me realise a non-zero amount of people have this view and post/behave however they want - leading to instance closures and defederations

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            10 days ago

            Probably people getting down voted like crazy for asking simple questions isn’t really good for retention or growth. Late stage reddit behavior. Guess lemmy is going to speed run all of the downside of reddit.

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              It’s wise to not give a fuck about downvotes. They can’t hurt you. You can’t make it right for everyone. And that’s okay. Sometimes you say stuff that agrees with a couple of people. Sometimes you don’t. Questions included, as some might see those as a statement. You’re free to do the same. Isn’t democracy beautiful?

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      11 days ago

      Lemmee just say you shouldn’t be throwing stones with that glass ass server you got there. Weren’t y’all down for a minute? 🤔

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        Hexbear as a community was never going to leave. We almost lost our domain due to some silly bullshit but thankfully it didn’t happen. Even if it had though, we were just looking at a name change, maybe becoming hexbear.ml (or something like that) or possibly rebranding as some other name entirely. But we were never just gonna cease to exist like it appears lemm.ee will.

        That said, I am a little sad lemm.ee is going. It may have had its share of asshole users, but there were(are) definitely some cool people on it too. And whatever anyone can say about it negatively, lemm.ee is a hundred times better than fucking .world. My god THAT instance is a cesspit. .World is vehemently, aggressively trying to be reddit 2.0 along with all that implies including amplifying everything that makes reddit a shit website and corrosive lie of “community.” Lemm.ee may have had its issues, but if nothing else, it was a solid alternative to .world and that alone is enough to make me sad to see it go. There are even a couple users on it that I hope to see make an account on hexbear and plenty of others that would fit on .ml or one of the the other more generic instances.

        Edited to fix typing mistakes.

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          11 days ago

          It will be a truly sad day if hexbear disappears. It’s nice to have all the toxicity in a single, easily blocked instance.

          I’m joking of course, ml and lemmygrad also need the same treatment.

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            11 days ago

            Yeah, the instances that are most dedicated to fighting fascism and providing a safe space for lgbtqi+ and other marginalized groups are the “toxic” ones. Those are the instances that need to be contained so you can block them, huh? HMMMMMM…

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              11 days ago

              Everyone knows that’s not true. It’s laughable you even claim that. But keep trying to push that narrative anyways.

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              11 days ago

              You manage to get the most lgbtq instance defederate you, in case you want you check the mirror before mmmmmmm the rest…

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                What instance was that? And Hexbear is something like 80% or maybe even 90% LGBTQ, while not being explicitly an LGBTQ instance, so what exactly does it say about us when Western, still mostly white, mostly liberal instances defederate us? That we’re suddenly queerphobic or that crackers be cracking?

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                We arguably ARE the most lgbtq instance that isn’t specifically about lgbtqia+ (it is about radical leftism which is inseperable from lgbtqia+ rights and liberation). And nah, my fidel-wut reaction is 100% appropriate here. What’s more, hexbear is known for taking long and difficult looks into the mirror, to a degree liberal instances could never hope to do. Our resolute dedication to rooting out and correcting misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism and even just plain unrecognized privilege is well known and easily confirmed by looking at our history. Whatever lgbtq instance defederated from us was not because of homophobia or transphobia or anything like that, but rather their unwillingness to address the chasers infesting their community and our subsequent unwillingness to tolerate that kind of behavior and keep it from eroding the safe space that has been built through hard work and the dedication especially of the many trans people that make up our community. Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqia+, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

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                  Trying to paint hexbear as anything other than in complete full support of lgbtqiat, which the vast majority of us are, is absurd and insulting.

                  Well, I guess you can feel insulted then.

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      11 days ago

      wqhats the matter hexbear user, not good enough for your circle jerking chambers.

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        lol it’s so funny to accuse Hexbear of being a circle jerk when we are the ones that made all the reddit-like instances mald and defederate us the second they were exposed to perspectives that aren’t even exclusive to communists, but are widely held across the global South. hexbear-specter

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          if that is true, why are so many instances blocking yours and 2 others? your no better than your conservative counterparts. you cant escape liking authorianism and liking communism, it doesnt work like that.

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            The reason many instances block ours is that the majority of Lemmy users are reactionary liberals from imperialist countries that really, really hate seeing anything that counters their narrative about being enlightened progressives. A huge number of you probably have made a myth in your mind that compared to your older, more culturally conservative relatives, you’re basically as compassionate and left wing as it gets. Then you interact with communists who point out how imperialism works and how you benefit from it, as well as the action that is necessary to end that exploitaiton, and it shakes you to your core that you aren’t as left as it gets. No, I can’t be out of touch, it’s the hundreds of millions of leftists in the imperial periphery who are wrong smuglord

            To make it exceedingly clear: here you are, accusing us of not being able to escape liking authoritarianism, but your own liberal positions are currently either passively accepting or actively encouraging a genocide of 2 million people in Gaza. You might say you are opposed to that, but in practice you keep condemning the radical groups that actually are doing what’s necessary to end the genocide (i.e. the Resistance in the actual countries aftected and orgs like Palestine Action and the PSL in the West) because they’re “authoritarian leftists” or even worse, antisemites.

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      One of my only gripes with the instance was it’s refusal to defederate yours, and y’all celebrating it after the admins took that stance really just affirms how wrong that decision was.

      Looking forward to moving to an instance that is free from your shittiness. 👋

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        Seriously, why not just stay on reddit, or (same thing) move to .world? If manually blocking things that are shocking to your precious little sensibilities is too hard for you, there has always been other places that pander to echochamber-seeking dorks like you.

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          Trying to lecture me when you have no idea how instance blocking works is pretty on brand.

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          Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.

          In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.

          This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.

          This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.

          At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.

          Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.

          This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.

          That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to complain and beg your admins every day to defederate from .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!

          But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic”. Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          hey buddy, sorry we’re too cool for you. believing in things is cringe (it’s extremism to call out other people for supporting genocide)