• papertowels@mander.xyz
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    2 days ago

    It’d be fascinating to see how this plays out in the courts.

    Technically it’d be the officers themselves performing the wipes, right? Could you say you got the pins mixed up in your head and get away with it?

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      I think the prosecutor is going to drop the charges because I don’t think he broke a law. So we’ll not find out…

      But also, the defendant doesn’t have to prove anything and would probably be wise not to testify in court. If you decide that you’re going to testify at all, then they can ask you a lot of other questions that you probably don’t want to answer. So almost all of the time you should shut the fuck up. :-)

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      Well, the “free” state of Fl*rida just made it a misdemeanor to cover your license plate with materials that prevent those fucking Flock cameras from scanning it and putting you in a database so they can use the 'ole American warrantless data purchase loophole (a time-worn classic) to sell your location data to law enforcement and other third parties and upgrades the offense to a felony if used to commit another crime which in Florida could be just about anything. They (or any red state shithole) could literally make sneezing a misdemeanor and get away with it at this point while the MAGAts cheer because only the “bad people” sneeze, not them, never. So all the red state legislatures will probably collaborate to whip up some new bullshit laws at suspiciously the same time stating that if a person attempts to wipe their phone while being detained or gives a false self destruct duress pin to an officer it’s now a class a/type 1/highest tier whatever felony with up to a bajillion years in prison. Then if the courts block it they’ll appeal to a different, Trump appointed judge who will rule that a person “has no reasonable expectation of privacy during detainment by a public defender because they are now legally by definition in public” or some shit all in the name of freedumb of course.

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        So maybe you can do something that relies on them fucking it up. Set the lock to, for example, 43o1. Set the duress pin to 4301.

        If asked for the pin, say “four three oh one”. Chances are good they’ll interpret the “oh” as a 0. They can play back any recordings they have as evidence, and you’ll clearly be on record saying something that was not the pin they typed in. You did not mislead them.

      • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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        Fl*rida just made it a misdemeanor to cover your license plate with materials that prevent those fucking Flock cameras from scanning it

        That’s not even remotely new. It’s been illegal to cover a licence plate with anything that obstructs it being read, manually or otherwise, for as long as we’ve had licence plates.

        They may have tweaked the language a little here and there; but that law has always been around in some form.