I mean… both would be opportunistically, but that wasn’t my point. I support a free Palestine, I’m on your guys’ side (despite the downvotes)! I was just trying to say that Russia’s condemnation of one genocide doesn’t really mean shit in my opinion, especially while enacting their own genocide barely 1000 miles away.
Just so you know, the insistence of western liberals on reducing the word ‘genocide’ to just mean ‘anything bad our enemies do’ is a big part of how Israel was able to perform an actual genocide with as little push-back as it’s getting.
I wouldn’t say the atrocities in Gaza or the Donbas are EQUAL, no, not at all. For one thing, the Ukrainians are actually allowed to fight back without being labeled as terrorists. But Russia’s goals (and some actions, mostly conducted earlier in the conflict) certainly fit the definition of genocide
No, they don’t; that’s just the western liberal need to slap the genocide label on every bad thing enemy countries do (because they’ve already normalized every other war crime)
The internationally recognized, legal definition of a genocide is ‘the deliberate or systematic destruction, in part or in whole, of a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group’ including (among other things) the forcible transfer of children from one group to another. And Russia has been trying very hard for a while now to erase Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine and replace them with Russians.
To be slightly balanced, Russia doesn’t give a shit either way, they just voted opposite of the US. Still though, the point isn’t lost on me
Good point, they only oppose genocide opportunistically, whereas the US / NATO countries support genocide, but in a good wholesome way.
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I mean… both would be opportunistically, but that wasn’t my point. I support a free Palestine, I’m on your guys’ side (despite the downvotes)! I was just trying to say that Russia’s condemnation of one genocide doesn’t really mean shit in my opinion, especially while enacting their own genocide barely 1000 miles away.
tl;dr I was shit-talking Russia, not Palestine
Just so you know, the insistence of western liberals on reducing the word ‘genocide’ to just mean ‘anything bad our enemies do’ is a big part of how Israel was able to perform an actual genocide with as little push-back as it’s getting.
That’s a good point. Not what I was trying to do but it probably came off as that way to some. Thanks for the insight
Certainly that was what that nonsense about “Russia enacting their own genocide barely 1000 miles away” ultimately is
I wouldn’t say the atrocities in Gaza or the Donbas are EQUAL, no, not at all. For one thing, the Ukrainians are actually allowed to fight back without being labeled as terrorists. But Russia’s goals (and some actions, mostly conducted earlier in the conflict) certainly fit the definition of genocide
No, they don’t; that’s just the western liberal need to slap the genocide label on every bad thing enemy countries do (because they’ve already normalized every other war crime)
The internationally recognized, legal definition of a genocide is ‘the deliberate or systematic destruction, in part or in whole, of a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group’ including (among other things) the forcible transfer of children from one group to another. And Russia has been trying very hard for a while now to erase Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine and replace them with Russians.