• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 years ago

    Hey so I think you’re pretty rad person who’s obviously investing a lot of effort in setting up cool communities and making tools to keep them safe.

    I also think you got unfairly dogpiled in a pretty frustrating way.

    But further, it seemed to me you were not trying to de-escalate there. I know the hexbear dogpile can be a bit ridiculous (honestly that place confuses me, I see both the absolute sanest and most unhinged posts coming out of hexbear users) but at this point you are definitely feeding the trolls.

    I get that this might be fun for you, but it does use up a lot of bandwidth in the community and I worry it harms the quality of conversations we might be able to have in the future.

    Once again I want to be clear that this remark comes from a place of respect, you obviously care about fostering online community and hence this last couple of days is confusing to me.

      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 years ago

        I’m not sure if you’re aware but db0 has been working on CSAM filtering, safe federation lists and similar.

        Maybe cut them some slack? That’s certainly more work than I put in.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          2 years ago

          I didn’t remember, though if this is the AI guy then I did read the post. I still need to question the deeply antisocial behavior patterns when it comes to anything having to do with communication, though.

          Not that we shouldn’t give them credit for whatever good they do, we should.

  • Stoneykins [any]@mander.xyzEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’m not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.

    But holy shit their reaction was intense. And the idea that their arguments were in defense of left unity was pretty silly… 99% of it was just “anarchists wrong and evil”, and there is wild amounts of sectarianism going on just within hexbear that I’m sure lent energy to this.

    I respect how you reacted under pressure. I really respect any admin of a website that can show that much restraint when dealing with personal attacks and people you explicitly disagree with.

    But yeah the lethality of leftist infighting is maybe a topic that deserves more delicate conversations than memes.

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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      2 years ago

      Thanks for your kind words. I will admit I did get snappy towards the end of the day as I was getting tired and they had gone to straight up brigading tactics with half a dozen hexbears shitposting random replies, so there wasn’t even any point to reply anymore. It had just become a classic pile on situation because I hurt their feelings.

      I’m not sure I really agree with your first point, I think finding a way to find allys in all leftists would be worth it, even if it has a dark history. Things can be better.

      I’m not here to stop anyone. MLs can be allies when they act like anarchists, which they tend to do when they’re not in power. But you have to be cognizant who you’re getting in bed with.

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.netBanned from community
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        2 years ago

        MLs can be allies when they act like anarchists

        Uh, sure, and Nazis can be allies if they act like communists. You ever wonder if the reason MLs keep shooting anarchists is because instead of trying to work together the anarchists just insist the MLs become anarchists?

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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          2 years ago

          You ever wonder if the reason MLs keep shooting anarchists…

          gasp he said the silent part out loud!