As part of its secret “autopsy” report on how former Vice President Kamala Harris lost the 2024 presidential election to President Donald Trump, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) now seems to concede that the Biden administration’s support for Israel amid its continued genocide against Palestinians in Gaza played a large role in her losing votes, sources with knowledge of the report’s…

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  • aberrate_junior_beatnik (he/him)@midwest.social
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    Yep, democrats can’t fail, they can only be failed. It wasn’t Harris’ fault that she picked the wrong side of this issue both ethically and practically. It wasn’t democratic leadership’s fault that they precluded a primary and as a result we ended up with such a weak candidate. It wasn’t Biden’s fault for not prosecuting Trump and pushing as hard as possible to ensure it was illegal for him to run and hold office. It was voters at fault, because voters are obligated to vote for democrats, rather than democrats being obligated to win votes. Up is down, water is dry, red is green.

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      How privileged you are to be able to vote on principle when the impact of that vote actually kills people. You killed people. You did.

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        Democrats will scream “you killed people” at potential voters before turning around and voting for a candidate who promises to kill the exact same people. They’ll then wonder why a morally bankrupt party failed to successfully browbeat voters with a (piss poor) moral argument.

        You don’t give a shit about Palestinians (or you’d be disgusted by voting for Harris), but at least recognize how bad of politics this is.

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        It’s the exact opposite. You don’t care about Arabs and think they are beneath you, so you are fine voting for their genocide. You are privileged enough to not be affected by America’s policies, which is why you always vote for whoever the DNC puts in front of you. The policies don’t affect you.

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          You’re telling on yourself. The only realistic outcomes of the election were Trump winning or Harris winning. Trump winning was a guarantee that the genocide would continue, and it has. Harris was the only chance that things would evolve in a more measured way with fewer deaths and more serious pressure towards restraining Israel.

          You don’t care about Arabs since you think the outcome of Trump winning was preferable and the fact that there are more Palestinian deaths as a result is just an inconvenient fact of you standing by “your principles.” Tens of thousands of Palestinians have died for your principled stand.

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            Harris was the only chance that things would evolve in a more measured way with fewer deaths and more serious pressure towards restraining Israel

            Source: I made it the fuck up.

            “Let me be clear, I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself,” [Kamala Harris] said tonight. She said that Israelis should “never again” go through the horror and “unspeakable” attacks of Oct. 7.

            https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/g-s1-19232/kamala-harris-israel-gaza-dnc

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            Joe Biden personally feeding Palestinian children into a meat grinder. Kamala cheering.

            You: “Wow, he’s acting with such poise. He’s so pragmatic. I’m so proud to be an American.”

            You are the one campaigning for an explicit supporter of the genocide’s perpetrators. There is no spin you can put on this.

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            You know what I care about?

            Killing America. And I’ll throw away my vote as many times as it takes until this shithole country dies.

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            It’s really disgusting that you try to pin the Palestinian genocide on people who refused to politically support the party enabling the genocide.

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        Says the person who voted for… checks notes… more genocide!

        I’m glad the people who voted for genocide keep trying to blame people for killing others.

        You should get yourself a shirt: “I voted for genocide, and all I got was this lousy Trump presidency”