Carmakers are equipping their latest models with fancy touchscreens, but that could cause problems with Europe’s largest car safety authority.

The European New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP) is revamping its rating system starting Jan. 1, 2026 to mandate that five of a car’s primary controls — its horn, windshield wipers, turn signals, hazard warning lights and SOS features — will need physical buttons or switches.

Car models will have to comply to get NCAP’s coveted five-star rating. The scheme is voluntary but is heeded by most automakers because it’s closely monitored by consumers.

Belgium-based NCAP says that purely digital controls are a potential safety issue.

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    I think they need to be super explicit to stop the likes of Tesla weaseling out or doing the bare minimum:

    • Wipers, speed settings, auto on/off should be on a stalk for front and rear wipers
    • Indicators should be on a stalk with
    • Hazard lights must be a physical button
    • Horn may be on the wheel or a button
    • Lights on/off/full beam/dip/auto must be a dial or a stalk
    • Demister / heated window must be physical buttons
    • Gears must be a physical rocker, lever or dial

    And button / dial etc here means an actual push up/down button not some haptic / touch sensitive shit.

    Because at the moment Tesla are basically cheaping out of providing physical controls to save money. It doesn’t matter if someone crashes their car fiddling to set the wiper speed because Tesla saved $20 on a stalk and that’s all that matters.

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      And, for the love of dog, please require that the volume knob not rely on software! I hate trying to turn down/off the radio and then wait while the car decides whether I’m serious.

      When I first start my car, the screen has to go through the boot up sequence and safety warning before the volume knob starts responding. The music starts playing right away, though, at whatever volume the previous driver deemed appropriate.

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      Eh. I don’t think you need to specify “stalk”. I would be fine with physical buttons anywhere within easy reach. If they want to make a racing wheel that has 30 switches on it, I think I’m fine with that.

      I appreciate that SOME things don’t have buttons now: getting into a BMW with that has the same number of buttons and switches as the cockpit of an airliner is ridiculous.

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      Bit pedantic but a stalk + assembly could cost closer to $200, I’m not sure about design and manufacturing though

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        That may be the price if you buy a spare part. OEM for manufscturing it’ll be much lower.

        I recently had to buy a hose for my car. At the dealer it was 170€. At an online diwcout parts store it was 14€. Name brand, Gates.

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    to mandate that five of a car’s primary controls — its horn, windshield wipers, turn signals, hazard warning lights and SOS features — will need physical buttons or switches.

    Good, but would be great if climate control, volume/mute, and other things that need frequent adjustment while driving were also part of the mandate.

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              Yea I honestly hated when they made automatics go from a physical shifter that shifted actual gear linkage to electric selection dials. It’s insanely stupid, and a fucking nightmare to repair, but now going to a touchscreen is asking to get people injured.

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          Tesla has mechanical door pulls on the interior but they are supposed to be for emergency use only. Otherwise there are buttons on the interior door handles.

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      Car seat adjustment, above seat vehicle interior lights, steering wheel adjustment, door handles, door locks, main rear view mirror, climate controls for vents and seats, car starting, and trunk and seat releases should all have controls that can be operated either directly or with physical buttons.

      If there is ALSO a screen driven element, that’s fine, but this stuff needs to work without a screen.

      This stuff is not being done for the sake of UX. It is for saving money at the expense of consumer safety.

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        This stuff is not being done for the sake of UX. It is for saving money at the expense of consumer safety.

        This. Everyone, keep your eye on the ball.

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        You shouldn’t be adjusting your seats, steering wheel, and mirrors while driving. Interior lights neither, they should be off if you need them you’re not looking at the road. Climate control is also non-critical all that might be annoying but you don’t need to do it while driving. “car starting” isn’t really a thing with many cars any more, even gasoline ones, they switch the motor off automatically when you’re standing for a while and start once you select a gear, hit the throttle, whatever.

        Door handles though I absolutely agree, it’s a safety thing: You can make them fancy schmancy electric all you want but they also have to open the lock mechanically, e.g. by pulling the lever with some force none of that Tesla “open the maintenance hatch and find a steel cable to pull on”.

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        It is for saving money at the expense of consumer safety.

        People keep saying this but I don’t buy it. Like, how much does some fucking buttons cost? Hell the cheap cars still have buttons and mechanical controls with cables and shit.

        And at the cost of consumer dissatisfaction. I think this is just more “change for the sake of change” so that someone can justify their job at the company that we’ve all come to know from the tech world.

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          Enough. One screen may cost $5, but if it replaces 10 - 20 15¢ buttons, that’s still worthwhile.

          Especially since there would be labour cost savings installing buttons, and not having to spend time installing spacers replacing those buttons for different trims, when they can just do it all in one screen, and fold it into the infotainment system install cost.

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            if it replaces 10 - 20 15¢ buttons

            No? It’s not.

            Hell, why not just remove the passenger seats, that would probably save a couple hundred dollars on every car!

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      Eh, I think this strikes the perfect balance where it ensures safety while not stifling innovation. Touchscreens are bad, and the consensus around that is growing. But the solution might not be a return to physical buttons, there are many possibilities and some might turn out easier and safer.

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        Touch screens are not “bad”. They’re great for things like gps. They’re just bad for driving functions.

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      I have Tesla and their old design I could do easily while driving. They did a UI update and not everything takes several clicks. Anything that is critical to running the car should have a manual control. If touch screen isn’t available, you need to be able to operate the car, if nothing else to get to a repair center.

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        What controls do you need to operate the car?

        I though everything the article mentions is already a physical control, like horn and windshield wipers.

        It’s only temperature that is digital.

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          In the Tesla the wipers are on the touch screen.

          I’ve heard new models also to change gears you use the touch screen. Mine has a control for that but I’ve heard in newer models they removed that.

          Temperature is also touch screen.

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            For mine, the wipers are on the left side. You can click once to run it once and then use the roller buttons to change intensity

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              Do you have gear selector on yours ?

              I’d actually like that setup. Mine is all touch for wipers since they are “automatic”.

              My Audi has a control for it. Now I do feel the Audi has too many sticks. I have three which just seems like too many.

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    I only have a touch screen for entertainment and configuration and still notice how distracted I get when I have to use it. No haptic feedback and multilayered menus are just a bad idea while driving.

    Cherry in top is driving at night with astigmatism when theres’s a whole illuminated panel in your face.

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    Add it to the list of “shit nobody wants but car manufacturers keep fucking doing”, along with gloss black trim and capacitive buttons.

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      Capacitive buttons are the fucking worst. Even when the manufacturers try to incorporate haptic feedback, it’s never enough when you’re in a moving vehicle with bumps in the road…

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    Good, now North America needs to do the same. Sick of touchscreens. Also make it so it’s harder to steal my car too thanks.

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    That’s actually a good idea, because when your finger is wet the touchscreen doesn’t work and on touchscreen is more difficult to develop muscle memory, so you spend more time distracted trying to find the spot on screen to touch

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    Using your phone while driving is illegal, so we made all the controls on the same technology.

    Genius. About time it’s banned.

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      My favorite is the warning to not look at the screen, which you have to acknowledge to get it to go away.

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      To be fair, using phones while driving was banned in most countries back when phones still had physical buttons.

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        And the swap from physical buttons, which you can use by feel and that never change their location, to touch controls made this less of an issue?

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    I don’t see anything about gas, brake, or steering. Next generation EU market Tesla will feature drive-by-theremin.

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      Practically a nightmare, but as a fantasy kinda cool. Initial D but they are theremin drifting would be kinda sick lol

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      I’m sincerely appreciative of everything they do for consumers as a whole. Not everything makes it across the pond but at the very least it sets precedent and a lot of the groundwork is done if our politicians ever decide to get their shit together and give us a ground to stand on against corporations and lobbyists.

      A guy can dream.

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      except of course for the blatant racism against non-western people, the current shift towards neofash politics (meloni etc), the militarization and the impeding economic collapse.

      how do liberals manage to ignore problems so efficiently?

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        except of course for the blatant racism against non-western people, the current shift towards neofash politics (meloni etc), the militarization and the impeding economic collapse.

        All of which already happen in the US, but worse.

        The entire world sucks, can’t we be happy of living in a place that sucks a bit less?

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          i do acknowledge that that things are worse in the us, but that doesnt make the deficiencies in europe any better. one shouldnt just accept that the world sucks, but start fighting for a better one. just look at cubas success

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            We are fighting for a better one. All those recent EU regulations are doing exactly that.

            I’d love if we could address those issues you’ve listed too, since they’re obviously more important, but it seems really hard until the european left actually wakes up and starts promoting actual candidates.

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        Racism? Sure there is some racism but Europe is hella diverse bro.

        I live in the UK and I’m proud that Manchester is multi-cultural. Don’t listen to the headlines, most of us ain’t racist.

        Where you from dude? Just wondering if you should or should not be throwing stones at glass houses.

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          im living in central europe but am of eastern european descent. due to looking “white” i usually get less discrimination than my turkish and arab friends, but its still way harder to get a job or higher education for non-native people, as higher pay positions are almost exclusively reserved for westerners. it is also harder to get a decent apartment with a foreign sounding name and in case of legal matters you can bet that the cops will rather believe the word of a native than yours.

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    They forgot add acceleration, breaks and clutch to this list.

    But as ussual: EU, I belive in you!

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    Fucking good. Long overdue.

    I love some EVs, but I drove a Polestar 2 and a Model 3 on road trips for work in California. Never again. The nighttime driving experience is miserable imo, and the issues with the lack of stalks and buttons is real.

    The Polestar is the only car to ever make me so angry I had to pull over. It had some kind of sensor issue, and decided the right way to notify my at 80mph on the highway was to A) cover my gate cluster with the error notification B) disengage my cruise control suddenly, at 80mph, and C) begin beeping.

    I almost drove my rental into the Pacific Ocean out of spite.

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      Zero dog in the game (I own a Mazda3) but I rented a Polestar and found it very enjoyable. Different, absolutely, but good enough that I was glad there is an alternative EV to Tesla if I wanted to get one.

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    Touch controls in a car is definitely up there among the absolute dumbest ideas of the century.