In commemoration of the upcoming Transgender Day of Visibility (TDOV), President Joe Biden issued a statement praising trans people’s contributions to society and describing actions his administration has taken to counter transphobic bullying and extremism. Additionally, many members of Biden’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also issued their own statements affirming that community health depends on supporting trans people too.

“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden wrote in his statement. “Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families or running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve, and are entitled to, the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves.”

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    Anyone telling you both sides same are either a bad actor or so incredibly privelleged that they can just not care about this kind of thing.

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      Like the privileged Palestinians getting genocided by your centrist idol biden? This is the same biden who said that we need the republican party, by the way. Interesting that someone saying such flowery words about trans people is so strong in his belief that we need a party that is intent on erasing them. You’re complaining about "both sides"ism, but biden is “both sides” the candidate.

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        Good that the genocide commited on Palestinians is used universally to bash whoever we dont like.
        Or derail any conversation.

        Truly a blessing. Sorry I meant disgusting.

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          People being distracted from the President going online and saying “Trans Rights” by the purely immaterial spectacle of a 9/11’s worth of new dead Palestinians.

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      You know, usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.

      Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?

      If you wanna really shut up those people bitchhing from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it figured out.

      Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.

      Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.

      Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?

      So what’s the hold up blue states?

      Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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        HOW was this downvoted.

        every time I argue that we should vote third party to move the Democratic party left, people tell me that instead we should focus on electoral/voting reform. And then someone suggests it and gets downvotes.

        it’s almost as if people don’t really care 🤔

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          Voting 3rd part has the opposite effect. Republicans voted 3rd part in 92 to shift policy and lost the presidency for 8 years, and the appointment of 2 lifetime supreme court justices.

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              That has nothing to do with elections and everything to do with the direction news media has taken. Outrage sells, reasonable politics not so much.

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      I’m a trans person and I don’t appreciate my identity being used to justify voting for someone who literally TODAY sent more weapons to Israel to bomb Palestinians with.

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          Yeah you’re cool with voting in the fascist killing Palestinians, and shitting on people for caring about genocide. Very cool.

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            Please list the descriptors that show Joe Biden is a fascist, because I’m looking at Umberto Eco’s and I see… maybe 1, if you reach a bit: “appeal to the middle class”

            You probably fall under at least 4 though.

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              he’s funding a genocide, is the leader of a country that has one of the proportionally largest prison populations in the world that are used as slaves, the U.S. is a police state who spies on its own citizens and regularly just bombs/assassinates activist movements. Any president not acting to dismantle that is fascist.

              shocking that you’re just learning this now, but the United States are the bad guys

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              I’m sure you’ve heard all the arguments, if you are curious about my thoughts you can dig through my comment history or do some googling and guess at what they could be.

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          When can we start voting for someone good instead of merely less bad? How do we get to that point?

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            I would think it would take 4 back to back presidential election wins by the Democratic party. Maybe 3 if it included wipeouts of Republicans in Congress and at the state level. No party can survive being out of power for that long without changing and shifting towards were voters are and that leaves the Democrats room to shift left to solidify that flank.

            We’ve already had 1. We’re on the cusp of a possible second. That means we could be 4 years from a complete collapse of the Republican party, if people were actually serious about creating a real leftist movement in this country. That’s because winning is how you affect change. A loss just tells politicians that they need to be more like the winner.

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              The California model. Render Republicans impotent, then you can start enacting real positive changes.

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              That’s a good start, I think. The tricky bit is I think you need thirty years straight of good decisions so that the next generation is fully done “correctly”. Will be harder to abuse the system after that.

              “Be more like the winner” is interesting. Trump is a populist and he was more worried about Bernie than Clinton.

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          I’m a trans person and condemn anyone who won’t vote to stop a fascist dictator that wants me dead from obtaining the nuclear codes

          i’ve been trying to find someone who’s life had been impacted by biden’s support of don’t-ask-don’t-tell; defense-of-marriage-act; executive-order-10450; ice; straight-marriage-only-in-2006 to ask if they still support him; but it seems that only the young who are ignorant of his past; those who “avoid politics”; and those that were never affected universally support him.

          if you’re not one of these three groups; i’d like to hear your thoughts on why he switched to pro-lgbt: do you think it’s because it was more politically advantageous of him? did he hate lgbt in the past because it acceptable and, if so, if it were still acceptable would he continue to hate lgbt?

          i ask because my life has been thoroughly fucked by each one of these policies and it took A LOT of effort to rebuild my life so it’s obvious that i wouldn’t support him; but i’m wondering if there’s anyone else out there whose life has also been thoroughly fucked by these policies, but still support him somehow.

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          condemn anyone who won’t vote to stop a fascist dictator

          Finally standing up to Benjamin Netanyahu and all those Americans who keep voting for him

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      The problem isn’t that they are the same. The problem is one side is so bad that the other can do whatever they want, because “at least I’m not the other guy and first-past-the-post means you better fall in line and vote for me in November”.

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      Bad actors usually work for the government and if there’s anything the government is pressuring you to do is not voting for parties that aren’t part of the government (red or blue). If there’s anyone privileged here i would point my finger at americans, people getting bombed in gaza or in the middle east don’t even get to decide if they can live the day or not. Let’s not play the politicians game anyway, turning people against each others is one of their oldest trick in the book. If there’s anyone actually privileged in this world it’s them

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      i like it when straight people overcompensate to try to make up for all thoroughly fucked up things they did to lgbt in the past; problem is biden did SO MUCH fucked up things to so many lgbt that he could keep keep trying to overcompensate for the rest of his life and still not even budge the karma scale.

      still, though, it’s nice to see the effort and it would carry a lot more weight if he didn’t benefit from trying to do so during election season.

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        problem is biden did SO MUCH fucked up things to so many lgbt that he could keep keep trying to overcompensate for the rest of his life and still not even budge the karma scale.

        What did he do?

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          it takes less than 30 seconds on google to find biden’s record, so i’m hoping you’re not a sealioning.

          tldr: biden is a 2-faced politician that goes with whatever is popular atm. this meant that he was anti-lgbt when it was okay and is now suddenly pro-lgbt since that it’ll get him votes nowadays.

          voted against gay marriage

          voted against gays in the military

          affirmed his stance on anti-gay marriage in 2006

          supported banning lgbt in federal service like executive order 10450

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            It’s not a great track record, for sure.

            tldr: biden is a 2-faced politician

            Sadly this bit is just redundant.

            That said, when going with “what’s popular” happens to align with what’s right, that’s gotta be worth something.

            I’m a 90s kid, so I grew up calling my friends all sorts of homophonic slurs. I’ve told some racist jokes in my day, thinking I was edgy.

            None of this affected public policy, but I’ll say for sure my views have changed a lot over the last few decades.

            Can we say for sure that bidens not just a “fair weather ally?” No I suppose not, but a fair weather ally is still an ally.

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              What’s popular? That’s literally what I want from a politician and nothing else. That is democracy defined.

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      both sides same

      Once side does some weak tea pandering in a Facebook post while the other disenfranchises 10,000 newly registered voters to rig a Constitutional Amendment vote.

      The solution, as always, is to vote harder. And if we catch you showing disappoint while on your way to the election booth, we reserve the right to blame you for our clown car of corporate flak losers falling flat in the latest round of gerrymandered and voter caged elections.

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      They are not the same but they are almost the same. Identical on most important issues such as genocide, police power, prisons, wealth inequality,etc.

      They just pick controversial topics that they know will divide people, so they can make us vote for them so the other side won’t win, while both couldn’t care less about anything but money in their pockets.

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    “part of the fabric” not “the fabric”

    I’m an ally, but at the end of the day let’s not over conflate statements. It doesn’t serve anyone a favor.

    Over stating gives poor intentioned people room and also means that supporters relent.

    “The fabric” should never apply to any group tbh.

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      That’s really weird because neither of these planes detail that indisputable fact that one party is currently and has been trying to install a dictator for about 6 years now.

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    All of the Fox News crowd are getting bent out of shape because it falls on the same day as Easter this year…can’t make this up.

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      I am glad you got to vote for the person that best represents you. Why not the rest of us as well?

      Doing away with first past the post voting will allow people to vote third party with no spoiler effect. More people voting = more democratic votes.

      Can someone explain why blue states are still using FPTP voting?

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        Can someone explain why blue states are still using FPTP voting?

        Because if only blue states get rid if FPTP and no red states, Republicans will gain a lot more power in government. They’d have a lock on the Presidency forever and possibly a permanent majority in both houses of Congress.

        If all states did it, Democrats (and the new leftist coalition in general) would gain more power, but probably only a constitutional convention could force the red states to abandon FPTP.

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          I think this guy theodewere perfectly shows the classic liberal mindset in his insults towards me in the comments here and disdain for the poor and uneducated he has for no reason but to shame them. This is shows the true values of the liberals that pretend to care about the weak and being so highly upvoted it is clear that many agree, but don’t really want to be that open about it.

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    I am a lover of both words and deeds. This issue needs a lot of bad laws rolled back, but it also needs to have this kind of thing being said at every level of society.

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      Just tiresome to read “Joe Biden becomes first president to wave a trans flag from the stairs of Air Force One” and then turn the page and read “Florida legislature passes the ‘Install Land Mines In Women’s Restrooms Act’ and funds it to the tune of $40M”

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          That word is being abused lately. Trans people aren’t being packed into trains and sent to gas chambers.

          What’s happening to them isn’t ok and laws need to protect their rights like everyone elses, make no mistake about it but conflating it with the Holocaust, doesn’t help the victims make progress. We need to use accurate language to combat the inflammatory language being used by the bigots trying to limit Trans rights IMO.

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            That word is being abused lately. Trans people aren’t being packed into trains and sent to gas chambers.

            Just cause we’re not there yet doesnt mean we’re not heading there

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              You’re not wrong but we should still use the correct language so that when we actually get somewhere nasty, the language isn’t diminished beyond the point of usefulness.

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              Ya, still losing it’s meaning with the overuse and weaponization of the word.

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                What it means is “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group”. The GOP is definitely trying to create a world without trans people by any means necessary, so unless your quibble is that trans isn’t an ethnic group, I don’t see how I’m misusing that word.

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                  Are you claiming that not providing the medical care to transition is akin to deliberate killing?

                  Cuz even the most Liberal courts are going to struggle with that one…

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          A large portion of the United States now believes the 2020 election was stolen, and that’s all due to words. Words have impact.

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            What I meant was that they are always lies. They don’t represent reality in any way. Biden doesn’t care about Trans people no more then Trump believes elections were stolen. They just say those lies to get people to support them and then they hurt those same people when they get what they want.

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      Please just STFU and let us (trnas people) have a brief distraction from all the hatred.

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        I’m not sure how much solace we should take from inauthentic political posturing, but we should certainly try to use being a political football to our advantage (since we can’t help that we’ve been victimized this way, but we can try to make something of the national spotlight being put on us).

        To that end I think it’s beneficial for us to raise our standards and demand more than just words from politicians claiming to be supportive allies. Biden wants to be seen as supporting trans folks? Well, we demand the VA cover gender affirming surgeries. That’s a specific transphobic VA policy that needs to be overturned, and Biden can show he’s an ally by doing something about it.

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          Yes, but appreciating a comment like this, especially in a political environment where a large portion of country, including a good chunk of Bidens voter base, are openly transphobic, does not mean we can’t also call for more substantial action.

          Especially if we acknowledge that due the to the current makeup of the house and the senate, Biden is pretty much powerless to put though any pro-trans legislation, so really the best we can (realistically) hope for is a change in the narrative towards the positive.

          And hell, it’s better than what we have in the UK where our “”“left wing”“”" leader refuses to support trans people.