I think I’m going to migrate this community to Lemmy.world or Lemmy.zip. I love PieFed, but I’d rather wait until things are a little more stable before I consider PieFed.social.
I think world and zip are both fantastic options. Lemm.ee leaves me a little worried that any instance can shut down at any point. I’d prefer to pick whatever instance is least likely to shut down. I do think Lemmy.ml is pretty safe from shutdown, since it’s run by Lemmy maintainers, but I’m worried I’m reducing my audience since many people block ml.
Any thoughts?
Aren’t you already hosting a Lemmy instance to test on? Would be coolest to have this community on !blorp@blorp.blorp or whatever domain
I am, but idk if I wanna open that up to federation. Hosting a public instance would likely take up more of my time. I wanna just focus on building Blorp.
That makes sense, hosting an instance can take quite a lot of time
You wouldn’t need to upen it up to user-signup, just only host the community on it and all the users would be remote ones!
Lemmy.zip would be a great choice !
Out of curiosity, other than wanting to balance the growth of the threadiverse, was there another reason to prefer zip over world?
The great reports provided monthly: https://lemmy.zip/post/45366675
The admin is very responsive, every time I encounter a small issue it’s usually fixed within the day. They are very nice too, on top of that.
That report looks sick! I also got the impression that the admins are very nice. I just also wanna make sure I chose a stable home for the community. Just want to be extra cautious after ee, shut down.
Yes of course. Same for me, and as you can guess, the lemmy.zip reports always provide good insights on how the instance is doing
Of the two I would rather .zip, but they geo block the UK. No idea how many uk users you have, and if that would affect you.
The only reason I have not blocked .ml is this community and Mlem are on here.
There is also the option of piefed.blorp.tld
The instance geoblocking the UK has no impact on UK users, they can access communities just fine using federation: https://feddit.uk/c/fedigrow@lemmy.zip
Not that many people seem to block Lemmy.ml, primarily because it’s the dev instance.
Why would a standard user care about the dev instance? Admins, I would understand, mods maybe, but standard users?
https://infosec.pub/ has 348 monthly active users (so, around the same numbers as instances likes midwest.social or reddthat.com) and defederates from it.
Because it has a lot of active communities like Memes, AskLemmy, Privacy, Linux, and more.
https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active , in the top 20 most active communities weekly, there is only one lemmy.ml community
- Memes: Lemmy.world is more active
- AskLemmy: Lemmy.world is more active
- Privacy: Lemmy.ml is more active, but there are others like !privacy@programming.dev that are quite active too
- Linux: same as above with !linux@programming.dev
The Lemmy.ml communities are still active, though. We don’t all need to consolidate into the biggest of similar communities, that goes against the fediverse structure.
My point was more that if an instance defederates lemmy.ml, the instance doesn’t lose much, there are alternatives to all the .ml communities (and that does indeed follow the fediverse structure).
But again, most instances aren’t defederated from Lemmy.ml. Seems like you just really want people to defed.
I don’t, I’m just saying that people are blocking .ml
The only reason I have not blocked .ml is this community and Mlem are on here.
https://piefed.social/comment/7712510
I instantly blocked any .ml community. Fuck those tankies.
https://piefed.social/comment/7601405
I came here when the reddit api thing happened, and have since blocked .ml
https://lemmy.world/comment/18190083
Thanks for this, had fun reading it all. Good thing I switched to PieFed and blocked instances like .ml and hexbear.
https://piefed.social/comment/6931899
already blocked lemmy.ml 🥳
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19223080
Most of us are completely defederated from .ml or blocking it.
https://lemm.ee/comment/21076067
Are those specific instances that are federated in (that can be separately blocked, like people do with .ml)?
https://lemmy.world/comment/17560631
I don’t remember why I blocked .ml because it was a long time ago but I’d guess I got tired of the users and many of the communities bleeding tankies into the rest of Lemmy.
https://midwest.social/comment/17924609
Well I blocked lemmy.ml, so no AMA for me :S
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/18859301
I can go on for a long time, but you get the idea.
Actually I remember us having a similar conversation 10 months ago: https://sopuli.xyz/post/18211534/12491063
I recently started using Blorp because I saw one post from this community on my timeline. If you decide to migrate to .world, that would at least mean me and people from the instance I’m on wouldn’t see it anymore.
Outside of a vocal minority, I don’t think .ml is heavily blocked by people. Of course, I don’t have data to back up my claim, but if that’s a real issue I think it should be weighted in properly.
Tbh, I also don’t know, and don’t have data to back up my claim either. I love Lemmy and I love PieFed. I want to build a great app, but I find all the drama exhausting.
I would love to have someone else manage the Lemmy community so I can dedicate more time to working on the app. If anyone reading this has any relevant skills you think you can contribute to Blorp, please don’t be shy.
But also, reading everyone’s comments and feedback means the world to me, so I do enjoy being here too. I just wish there were more hours in the day. There’s so much I want to build.
Idk if you can tell, but I tend to ramble lol. Thanks for using Blorp!
FYI, lemmy.zip is federated with lemmygrad.ml, lemmy.ml and hexbear.net:
What does this mean in practice? Do people block zip because of this? Idk if I’m ever gonna be able to check every single box, and instances can always change who they federate with.
It means that the person you were replying to above would be able to access the community without issue, like for : https://lemmygrad.ml/c/technology@lemmy.zip
People do not block lemmy.zip
Sorry, rereading my comment now I realize it wasn’t that clear: in summary, Lemmy.zip would allow people from lemmygrad, hexbear and lemmy.ml to also see the community
🎼 Where You go, I’ll go
Where you stay, I’ll stay 🎶
If you do migrate the community I’d go with lemmy.zip. It federates with pretty much anything that isn’t illegal (lemmy.zip de federation vs lemmy.ml and lemmy.world), I don’t think anyone blocks it (there are some people who block lemmy.world), it appears financially stable according to their reports, it has been around for sometime (not the oldest, but not new), it hosts a blorp instance and hasn’t had (to my knowledge) any controversial administrative decisions.
That being said, I personally don’t care if the community is on .ml, I’d probably just wait till piefed is more established and then reconsider (especially since it has a move community function).
On an unrelated note I think there is a typo in the GitHub readme, the last word is “ap” not “app”
Yes.
Thanks to Blorp’s impressive search function, I could see that there is a community but it quickly disappeared. I had to unblock the instance in order to join the community. My time and experience online has been delightful IMO due to my ever-growing block list. I only know about 80+ people IRL who have that instance blocked and that’s not a lot.
IMO, many Blorp users will follow the community regardless. This seems to be a strong community that would be willing to support other Blorp users and that’s what really matters.
PieFed sounds lovely, I might end up there.
