Say a friend is looking for a new system, and said person is not particularly savvy with technology, what system would you point them toward?

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    Why is that? I love my Linux PCs but you should not underestimate the mental barrier of considering Linux as a new user. Starting with Mac OS is like a soft start into it. And the apple silicone machines are powerful af. I use one as ML server and it performs well. Oh and the privacy by design is still pretty good in Mac OS.

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      I tried getting my mom on Linux mint. Kinda made me realize it’s not as user friendly as I thought. I would go with windows or macOs if they just want everything to “work”

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        What exactly was the problem because everyone who I’ve seen use Linux Mint has had no problems, including my grandma who was bugging me every week about some dumb new shit Microsoft was doing before I switched her.

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        The problem i see with Linux is that we all seem to have to rely on interpreting documentation on some level, whereas on Windows or Mac people search a problem, some article vaguely describes the issues they have, said article recommends [Insert Software Installer Here] to resolve aforementioned issue, people are pleased their issue is resolved without actually knowing what really changed on their system.

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      Because it’s expensive as shit, especially for a new user.

      If you introduce any system to a person not familiar with computers, they’re a blank canvas and won’t need to change paradigms for their mental model. Great chance for Linux to shine. Just install an easy desktop environment, and a simple distribution. They’ll probably need a bit of hand holding at first but that’s what you’re there for as the friend having recommended their OS in the first place.

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        One easily gets blind of the fact that it takes quite a lot of knowledge of computers to run Linux. You often see stuff that scares the shit out of a regular user.

        The problem is the experience is not customized for a person who doesn’t care HOW it works. They just want to do their stuff without hassle.

        I’ve tried this a couple of times and mostly I end up being a 24/7 computer fixer hotline and end up installing macOs or windows in the end to make everyone happy

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          I’m running Arch Linux and I don’t know HOW it works, I just follow instructions. 🤷‍♂️

          Everyone has to start out somewhere. There really are minimal effort/knowledge distros out there.

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            Well if you installed and set it up by yourself you already are way more advanced than a normal user. But again one easily is blind to that fact.

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              But what can we expect of this user were recommending a system for? Are they supposed to install it themselves or nah?

              I didn’t know anything about how to install Arch when I decided to give it a shot. I just read instructions and typed what it told me to type. I knew nothing about what I was typing.

              Same as when I installed Ubuntu like 20 years ago as a teenager. I filled in my name and clicked the Next button a few times, and entered what I think the partitions should look like. Then waited to watch the progress bar fill up.

              These are steps you have to take to install Windows as well… Unless of course you’re not installing it yourself, but that can be the case for Linux, too.