cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39342270
Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.
I do like Wayland but it still has some issues that are annoying:
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When using remote input solutions (e.g InputLeap) you have to approve the input capture, and you need a mouse and keyboard connected to the PC to do that, making it kind of pointless.
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Remote desktop also requires the same thing, like, what if I don’t have a mouse & keyboard attached? What if it is a PC you are accessing from another country? You can’t just fly back to approve the remote desktop request.
This needs to get fixed ASAP in my opinion, since people do need these tools and sometimes you can’t connect a mouse & kb to the PC to just approve the request.
InputLeap is the only thing that keeps me on X at the moment. Especially since I need it between a Linux host and a Windows client. It just doesn’t work if I use Plasma with Wayland unfortunately and honestly, the github page of InputLeap is everything but helpful.
Have you tried out Deskflow?
InputLeap is effectively abandoned and the maintainer has taken over Deskflow which has better Wayland support
No, I haven’t, but will check it out, thanks!
I didn’t know InputLeap is also abandoned. Heck, I moved to it from Barrier for the same reason :P
Hah yep, I started with Barrier too.
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As soon as I saw this i knew I had to go to the phoronix comments and bask in the shit flinging
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/node/1594957
For anyone curious
The KDE bug tracker now:
“KDE: We hate Unix.”
KDE:
“The Unix philosophy favors composability as opposed to monolithic design”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
Xorg is a monolith with essentially one implementation. Wayland is a modular system with almost every component available from multiple sources.
Saying adopting Wayland means you “hate UNIX” is one of the least thoughtful arguments I can imagine.
God dammit, everytime I have to use wayland I find something that I need to use which doesn’t work.
Can we please wait until wayland can actually replace x11 and not pretend just showing a desktop is all it needs to do?
Do you have some examples? Most things I (and others) do are in the category “showing a desktop”, multiple desktops with different resolution / scaling / refresh rate, maybe opening a virtual monitor using krfb.
Wayland has been a complete game changer for me regarding performance and reliability (as soon as it hit a certain stability lol).
Yeah I second this. I’ve been on wayland for a few years now and while my needs are pretty standard I also regularly need slightly-off-the-beaten-path features. Not everything used to always work, but in the last, I want to say 18 months, I never found my needs lacking.
Multiple monitors work, adaptive sync works, mic / webcam works, screen / window sharing works, remote desktop and wayland forwarding works, etc.
That’s not to say everything is guaranteed to work all the time, but I am surprised to see people saying that even today they always find something fundamental that is broken when they attempt to switch.
