Yah, if perpetuating systemic racism, imperialism and oppression is a deal breaker on a candidate, there is and will not be an American presidential candidate that it is appropriate to vote for. None.
But as Lenin said, we must participate in bourgeois elections, though we can’t expect them to bring results, lest they be dominated entirely by the bourgeoisie.
I think the trajectory of things are generally positive, but glacially slow, especially considering all the harm that gets perpetuated while waiting for that slow progress.
I think that can be gut wretchingly frustrating for the newly radicalized. So I sympathize with the people who say it’s abhorrent and not enough. Because it is abhorrent. And it’s not enough. But we must be pragmatic in our actions. America simply doesn’t have the class consciousness necessary for sweeping overnight change, yet.
For Lenin, elections had two major functions. One was the opportunity to make propaganda for socialism: to put across arguments and ideas that could win adherents. This was a vision of elections and election campaigns as a platform. The other function was elections as a means of ‘counting our forces’, i.e. gauging levels of support for socialist ideas and assessing political progress. This could in turn influence what tactics to adopt in a range of areas of political work. Furthermore, if Bolsheviks were actually elected (which did happen) their role was to champion radical socialist ideas and demands. It was to use parliament, which was very limited in actual powers, as a megaphone; not to believe falsely that parliament would in fact bring about significant change. source
Her policies say she will remove most US bases, not all. We still need some imperialism after all.
Her platform mentioned ending forced prison labor but not revoking the 13th.
She says she will support land back initiatives, but does that mean returning Manhattan? Absolutely not.
Stein’s policies are very progressive, but she still exists within America and it’s inherent imperialist and colonialist nature.
She also has zero chance of winning. Do you see a path to victory for Stein? Can you outline it?
Let’s imagine for a moment that there is no Jill Stein. Do you think there is a materialistic difference between a Harris and Trump presidency? Do you think one is preferable to the other?
When you cancel the common factors you’re just left with the racist.
If Genociding brown people isn’t a dealbreaker for you I’ve got bad news.
If genociding brown people is a dealbreaker for you I’ve got bad news.
Yah, if perpetuating systemic racism, imperialism and oppression is a deal breaker on a candidate, there is and will not be an American presidential candidate that it is appropriate to vote for. None.
But as Lenin said, we must participate in bourgeois elections, though we can’t expect them to bring results, lest they be dominated entirely by the bourgeoisie.
It sucks, but we need a functioning democracy if we want to make progress.
I think the trajectory of things are generally positive, but glacially slow, especially considering all the harm that gets perpetuated while waiting for that slow progress.
I think that can be gut wretchingly frustrating for the newly radicalized. So I sympathize with the people who say it’s abhorrent and not enough. Because it is abhorrent. And it’s not enough. But we must be pragmatic in our actions. America simply doesn’t have the class consciousness necessary for sweeping overnight change, yet.
Jill Stein is a proper presidential candidate
She has absolutely zero chance of winning because of first past the post.
You know that, right?
She also supports ongoing US imperialism, oppression and genocide, just not in Palestine. You realize that, right?
Many claims no truth. Impressive.
Her policies say she will remove most US bases, not all. We still need some imperialism after all.
Her platform mentioned ending forced prison labor but not revoking the 13th.
She says she will support land back initiatives, but does that mean returning Manhattan? Absolutely not.
Stein’s policies are very progressive, but she still exists within America and it’s inherent imperialist and colonialist nature.
She also has zero chance of winning. Do you see a path to victory for Stein? Can you outline it?
Let’s imagine for a moment that there is no Jill Stein. Do you think there is a materialistic difference between a Harris and Trump presidency? Do you think one is preferable to the other?
Imperialism is when base on place people want you out.
Stein wins when people stop supporting Genocide. Let’s have faith in humanity.
I literally don’t consider people supporting Genocide as candidates.