NodeSphere
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
slothrop@lemmy.ca to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 8 days ago

Spotify and Major Music Labels Sue Anna’s Archive for $13 Trillion

hackread.com

external-link
message-square
103
link
fedilink
373
external-link

Spotify and Major Music Labels Sue Anna’s Archive for $13 Trillion

hackread.com

slothrop@lemmy.ca to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 8 days ago
message-square
103
link
fedilink
Follow us on Bluesky, Twitter (X), Mastodon and Facebook at @Hackread
alert-triangle
You must log in or # to comment.
  • Lorka@feddit.dk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    37
    ·
    7 days ago

    AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      7 days ago

      Its just tribal politics.

      While authority exists, everything it can touch is tribal politics and bullshit abstraction layers on top of them. Literally everything.

      And terrorism. Tribal politics and terrorism.

    • enterpries@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 days ago

      All copyright and patents laws are bullshit for morons.

  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    7 days ago

    May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      7 days ago

      Be the change.

      • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        7 days ago

        Change is about the only thing I got because of corporate greed

  • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    6 days ago

    spotify and major music labels should be sued for 13 trillion

  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    6 days ago

    Is this why the Spotify section on their torrent page says “Unavailable until further notice.”?

  • Kilgore Trout@feddit.it
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    7 days ago

    Haha

  • foodandart@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    227
    ·
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    The fact that Anna’s Archive isn’t responding to the court tells me they couldn’t give a shit about the lawsuit.

    Glorious.

    • tomiant@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      92
      ·
      edit-2
      8 days ago

      “Sir, this is Wendys” energy.

    • Alb@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      59
      ·
      8 days ago

      Working Anna’s Archive link :

      https://annas-archive.li/

      • petrescatraian@libranet.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        27
        ·
        8 days ago

        Did they release the actual music yet?

        • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          42
          ·
          8 days ago

          It would be funny if they didn’t actually have any of it and were just pestering the industry. But they did release all the metadata, and spotify seems to think it’s legit…

          • Scrollone@feddit.it
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            9
            ·
            7 days ago

            It’s funny because Spotify disabled app creation from their developer portal. I bet the scraping was just calling their APIs

      • foodandart@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        8 days ago

        TY!

  • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    160
    ·
    8 days ago

  • veee@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    144
    ·
    8 days ago

    And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?

    • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      63
      ·
      8 days ago

      Roughly $0.00002/a/s/l/m

    • red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      7 days ago

      When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.

    • excral@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      There are 15.43 million artist on spotify, so they’d get about $836,000 each.

      • Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        7 days ago

        Less Spotify’s share, and the record label’s share, and the lawyer’s share…and of course they’d give the artists with the most streams a bigger share (they’re the ones with the labels who get a big cut).

        So about tree fiddy.

    • FiskFisk33@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      7 days ago

      Wouldn’t that be somewhere along the lines of $1000 per person, if divided over every single person in the world?

      • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        7 days ago

        Closer to 1600

  • Tiger666@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    109
    ·
    7 days ago

    Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

    Yes, I did say again.

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      7 days ago

      Who is going to stop them? You?

    • Bakkoda@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      38
      ·
      7 days ago

      LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE’RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.

      • Businesses everywhere
    • FiskFisk33@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      7 days ago

      Well, more along the lines of 10% of all the worlds money.

      … very reasonable indeed 😜

      • Chakravanti@monero.town
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        7 days ago

        Say whatever you like. Like a tape measure, Money isn’t real, Giygas. Stop trying to Rape Heidi. She’ll get Mad, Pokey.

        • Kilgore Trout@feddit.it
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 days ago

          Is this something related to Mother?

          • Chakravanti@monero.town
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 days ago

            And the completely, Totally Unrelated movie about Swiss Fast Ice Cheese.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    92
    ·
    8 days ago

    $13.000.000.000.000

    Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

    Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

    • ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      26
      ·
      8 days ago

      The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        7 days ago

        Are you going to tell me that investors are bumb enough not to see that nobody will ever even see a % of a % of a % of a % of a % of that number?

        • ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          7 days ago

          Why, none of that matters. Stock markets run on the hopes and dreams of investors. That’s how guys like Sam Altman can get away with evaluating their company at $1 trillion despite the bottom line showing them doing nothing but wasting funds.

          • ranzispa@mander.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 days ago

            While I do agree in general, Open ai is not a public company. Valuation logics of private companies are quite different than stock market.

            • ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              7 days ago

              https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-lays-groundwork-juggernaut-ipo-up-1-trillion-valuation-2025-10-29/

          • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            7 days ago

            So in other words, yes, they are that dumb

  • LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    81
    ·
    8 days ago

    Friendly reminder that streaming services have negatively impacted artists and art cultivation. Headbanging while blackout drunk at a dive bar gig, without directly giving the band(s) a penny, would help them more than their semiannual Spotify payout

    • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      8 days ago

      One of my favorite memories is inviting both my best friends and coworkers to a metal show at Saint Vitus, both groups hitting it off and making new friends, chatting with the bands at the merch table, and eating enough pizza to vomit on the sidewalk the moment I stepped outside.

  • slothrop@lemmy.caOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    75
    ·
    8 days ago

    If the litigants suffered these tremendous losses bc of AA, can they not deduct these losses from their taxes?

    Oh, wait…

    • tomiant@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      8 days ago

      We can’t sleep at night, it was… It was… HORRIBLE

      WdEPMEq8tpHkGHH.png

  • Feyd@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    8 days ago

    These numbers are always shitty napkin math that assumes every pirate would be a paying customer even though a lot of them don’t have the money to even spend as much as they calculate, would just skip jumping through all the hoops they’ve created or don’t even have a legal way to purchase in their country. Completely brazen lies every time

    • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      7 days ago

      The article says they are seeking $150K per track, which is the maximum legal amount.

    • bufalo1973@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      7 days ago

      And many will download just to hoard and not listen to that music ever. Like those “100 greatest hits from…” where you don’t know half of them and don’t like half of the ones you know.

  • ɯᴉuoʇuɐ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    7 days ago

    Apparently it’s legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

    Seriously, if I were the judge I’d throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

    • Insekticus@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      The whole lawsuit is a joke.

      And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

      • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        7 days ago

        That is not how laws work or what they are for. Do not be a child.

        • biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          6 days ago

          What about what they said was childish?

          • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 days ago

            Nothing, you’re a big boy now.

    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      7 days ago

      The gratuitous vulgar nonsense of it is the point. Its LBJ slapping his cock on the desk during a serious meeting to drive home that you cant fucking stop him

  • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    65
    ·
    8 days ago

    Weird, I wasn’t aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I’m fairly certain they they only license it.

    • VibeSurgeon@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      7 days ago

      Spotify and Major Music Labels

    • ranzispa@mander.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      7 days ago

      I guess if I were an artist I’d look at this and feel justified suing Spotify for 1 billion dollars for the lack of protection of my music.

      • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        7 days ago

        I assume any contracts detailing the guarantees of Spotify’s DRM are clear that it’s not Fail-Safe.

        • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          A hole that allowed people to download songs and one that allowed someone to download the entire collection are two different things.

          • tatterdemalion@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 days ago

            I assume they were literally the same mechanism, but AA just did it distributed across many accounts.

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.com

piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):

  • 🪶 Megathread
  • 🪶 FAQ
  • 🪶 ISP Complaints
  • 🪶 Rules
  • 🪶 Glossary

🏴‍☠️ Other communities

FUCK ADOBE!

  • !GenP@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Torrenting/P2P:

  • !seedboxes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !trackers@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !qbittorrent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !libretorrent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !soulseek@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Gaming:

  • !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !newyuzupiracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !switchpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !3dspiracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • !retropirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com

💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 419 users / day
  • 2.05K users / week
  • 3.81K users / month
  • 5.96K users / 6 months
  • 1 local subscriber
  • 67.5K subscribers
  • 445 Posts
  • 4.05K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • RandomLegend [He/Him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • CosmicTurtle0 [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • Unruffled [they/them]@anarchist.nexus
  • UI: 0.19.12
  • BE: 0.19.15
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org