The American Prospect reported that several Democrats in closely contested districts would be voting for the ICE appropriation. “They’re terrified of being labeled anti–law enforcement,” an unnamed source told the liberal magazine. “They want this to go away so they can talk about the cost of living more. Problem is, it’s not going away.”

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    Is there some rule that the news never name or link to bills & their votes so we can look up comprehensive information? It appears to be House vote 42 for H.R. 7147.

    Only the most conservative Democrats voted for this. The vast majority voted against.

    Vote All Votes Republicans Democrats Blue Dog Coalition
    Yea 220 213 7 4
    Nay 207 1 206 4
    Not Voting 4 4 0

    They’re a big tent party with a number of factions, and Blue Dog Coalition is the most conservative caucus.

    the Democratic leadership would not seek to whip the vote, now set for Thursday

    That blame resides entirely with the leadership, not party members. This source, however, is entirely biased.

    The Democratic leadership won’t block funding for ICE because it regards both ICE and DHS as a whole as critical parts of the machinery of the capitalist state, which they, like the Republicans, uphold and support.

    ICE is already overwhelmingly funded by last year’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Simply defeating this new bill won’t cut funding.

    Trump’s persecution of immigrants is deeply unpopular, and more Americans favor abolishing ICE entirely than allowing it to continue its vicious operations, according to recent opinion polls.

    Abolishing ICE is a loser: the people still voted for immigration enforcement. Abolishing offices & agencies doesn’t repeal laws people still want enforced, and whatever enforces immigration & customs regulations is logically called immigration & customs enforcement, ie, ICE. It makes as much sense as demanding abolition of all abused offices & agencies, and the Trump administration is abusing them all, especially the presidency. Should the US abolish the office of the president, too?

    Moreover, abolishing a corrupt agency doesn’t end the executive’s power to corrupt more agencies. This is like getting mad at the stick instead of the person beating you with it: there are a lot more sticks!

    A more logical answer here is to repeal Trump era changes, restrict the executive’s authority, impeach abusive administrators. While Democrats need more liberal & progressive votes than they have to do that, the liberals & progressives are clearly voting to oppose ICE.

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      It’s planned in advance–they decide that they want the funding to pass and decide who will take the heat and vote for it–those in safe re-election districts, and just enough of them for it to pass. That way the rest of them can say “who me? I voted against it!” But except for maybe a few who really were opposed, the rest of them all agreed to pass the bill.