I’m refusing to engage with “facts” that are false. Russia is currently engaging in a genocidal war of aggression. They are bad.
Also, it’s ridiculous to imply that just because I understand something, that means I support it.
That’s what I’m saying. I’m not saying you’re a tankie because you’re parroting false Russian propaganda talking points, I’m just saying I understand why people are saying that you are one. You know, the exact same thing that you’re doing where you’re trying to mask your support of Russia by saying you don’t support it, but you do understand it.
Also, it’s ridiculous to imply that just because I understand something, that means I support it.
I don’t disagree with this. I disagree with your assertion that you understand the reasons for the war.
You should do more investigation, because your understanding of the facts does not align with reality. I recommend starting with Michael Parenti’s “Manufacturing Consent” to understand how western media has shaped your worldview and understanding of history.
Two things can be true. Russia could have had legitimate concerns about escalators actions by NATO, and simultaneously their decision to wage war over those reasons could be wrong and illegal. Also, Russia has certainly committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.
However, I’m done talking with you. This entire conversation you have used straw men, lied, cherry-picked points, and moved goalposts. You don’t argue in good faith, you’re just trying to win.
I’m refusing to engage with “facts” that are false. Russia is currently engaging in a genocidal war of aggression. They are bad.
That’s what I’m saying. I’m not saying you’re a tankie because you’re parroting false Russian propaganda talking points, I’m just saying I understand why people are saying that you are one. You know, the exact same thing that you’re doing where you’re trying to mask your support of Russia by saying you don’t support it, but you do understand it.
I don’t disagree with this. I disagree with your assertion that you understand the reasons for the war.
You should do more investigation, because your understanding of the facts does not align with reality. I recommend starting with Michael Parenti’s “Manufacturing Consent” to understand how western media has shaped your worldview and understanding of history.
You don’t agree that Russia is waging a genocidal war of aggression right now? Because even according to their own media they are.
Two things can be true. Russia could have had legitimate concerns about escalators actions by NATO, and simultaneously their decision to wage war over those reasons could be wrong and illegal. Also, Russia has certainly committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.
However, I’m done talking with you. This entire conversation you have used straw men, lied, cherry-picked points, and moved goalposts. You don’t argue in good faith, you’re just trying to win.