Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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    persons that will always endanger other people and that includes killing them.

    You cannot know that, and if you have the ability to strap someone down and end their life, you have no need to do so since you clearly have complete control over their person.

    I’m OK with the death penalty only in principle

    You shouldn’t be. States qua arbiters of justice should not intentionally kill people under their control.

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      This is a discussion about personal morals. Some people think it’s OK to execute some criminals, others are completely opposed to that idea. There is no objective right or wrong here.

      For you your arguments might be compelling, but they don’t convince me. I can have complete control over someone and still decide to kill them because I don’t want to bother with locking them up, for example. And who says a society should not kill? That’s not even an argument, just an opinion.

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          Fucking lol. I love Lemmy. I’ve never seen such an obscure group of people speak in absolutes so consistently. Puts reddit to shame.

          “I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG”

          “I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD OR EVIL”

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            “I WILL DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG”

            I don’t decide. The state murdering people is wrong. I just have the moral wherewithal to recognize the fact.

            Which isn’t hard because it’s objectively true.

            Hope this helps.

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              Ok, I’ll play along for a bit.

              The state murdering people is wrong.

              Prove it is wrong. Use facts and data to prove capital punishment is wrong.

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                Steven-Chowder-at-a-card-table over here.

                I’m not gonna “debate me!” somebody who think murder is cool and good; it isn’t.