Nina spitting truths as always. She’s on fire recently, so follow her if you’re not doing so already.
To be clear; everyone working in my government, particularly after today, is a Nazi, or someone who works for Nazis. Do you know what we call people who worked for the Nazis, in the Nazi government? Yes, that is correct, Nazis.
So Machado is certainly not gonna feel lonely on the list of people on my TV who are definitely Nazis.
Oh, was that too harsh? Are you feeling bad for the good career civil servants, working for the literal fucking Nazis, who I have just impuned? Cool, let’s refer back to that part where I said I was surrounded by people who openly recognize that this is fascism, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY refuse to accept what that actually means.
We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis. Nobody says “the Nazi government and the career civil servants who hated them but stayed.”
“They’ll just find someone else.”
Then let them. “I took the job at the concentration camp because I was sure Hitler would find someone else” was not a good defense in court last time, and it won’t be this time either.
My philosophy allows for distinction between death squads and meter maids.
The guy who scrubbed Hitler’s toilet was not culpable in the same manner as the asshole who sat on it.
The guy who scrubbed Hitler’s toilets isn’t remembered at all, except by the collective noun “Nazi”.
They weren’t “The Nazis and the guy who scrubbed Hitler’s toilets”, just “Nazis”. You’re philosophy may allow for any distinction it likes, the lessons of history: just “Nazi”. For reference I linked the Wikipedia page to the Nazi party please observe the title isn’t “The Nazi Party and Hitler’s toilet guy” just “The nazi Party”
And that doesn’t invite any reconsideration on your part. Eighty million of the most evil motherfuckers imaginable, even if all they did is scrub toilets. Zero distinction.
That’s not how I understand language to work Worked for/with Nazis, adjective: Nazi. What reconsideration would you like me to make? They worked for/with “the most evil motherfuckers imaginable”, messy work that, makes sense you get some stink on you.
The post is about historic legacy. Learning the lessons of history. The historic legacy of those that worked for/with Nazis is “Nazi”.
You shared your personal philosophy, here’s one of mine. If you get the opportunity to work for/with the most evil motherfuckers imaginable: don’t. Else history might few you in the most charitable of light.
Imagine what fate you’d assign to Adolf literally Hitler if he hadn’t done the last decent thing in his life as the Soviets knocked on his door.
Would you give nearly the entire population of mid-century Germany the same treatment?
How are you not understanding this? The post has explained it. I have explained it. History remembers the guy that cleaned Hitler’s toilets under the collective noun “Nazi”.
History remembers Hitler specifically. In the wiki article I provided, and you haven’t read, Adolf Hitler has his own link his toilet cleaner does not. That is what you call a false equivelincy, please apologise. Please try again with a good faith argument.
Please respond.
While you you continue to act in bad faith I will talk past you for a minute. This person will “nuance” themselves all the way to a camp, or they’ll nuance you all the way to a camp. Nazis are Nazis, don’t let them convince you otherwise.
You don’t know what bad faith means, beyond people disagreeing with you.
Staying within the US, there’s a lot of Confederates who should have been hanged, but if you applied that to everyone who could be called a Confederate, you’d be describing a genocide. You can condemn people for not resisting their intolerable circumstances - but it’s not the same manner of moral failing as deliberately creating those circumstances.
Otherwise, how much of an asshole are you for participating in capitalism?
I won’t answer your questions until you answer mine. More bad faith.
I notice you just learned that Hitler and his toilet cleaner are remembered differently and have dropped the point. This a common tactic among bad actors
Talking past you again until how you learn to have a discussion We remember the people that worked with/for the Confederates as: Confederates. The post is about how history remembers people that work for/with evil. We remember them as evil. Don’t want to be remembered as evil? Don’t work for/with evil.
How many times has this person heard this? Here they try to reframe it as Confederates but it’s still true that history remembers them as Confederates.
Will you try again?
Word salad.
Good day.
If your livelihood depends on Hitler being in power, you’re going to keep him in power. In a very real sense, the toilet guy is more culpable than the asshole who sat on it.
“You know who I blame for the holocaust? The janitor!”
Fuck off.
Hitler had no power whatsoever without the will of the German populace.
It was the sum total of all the trivial efforts - like those of that janitor - that gave us the Holocaust.
Dictators have immense power despite what the populace wants. That’s… what makes them dictators. Even when everyone opposes the military, their opposition is the military, so the people tend to lose horribly.
Are you more responsible for capitalism than Elon Musk?
The consumer class is responsible not just for making Musk a billionaire, but also Bezos, Zuckerberg, Brin, Arnault, Ballmer, all of the Waltons… The most accurate answer to your question is “Yes”, I am indeed more responsible for capitalism than Elon Musk.
So the guillotines go where, first?
In 1930s Germany? Here’s a shortlist of candidates.
Are you on that list, what with being more responsible?