• UnicodeHamSic [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      No, it doesn’t even work on paper. We don’t need to build two competing factories to see what is best. We invented science. Somebody can just make a graph. It’s that easy

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      The same is true of many implementations of communism. The problem isn’t the system, the problem is people, and people try to corrupt the system to their benefit.

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          2 years ago

          How has what I said got anything to do with liberal ideology? If anything, the implication of what I said is that we need more authoritarianism, in order to stop people fucking around.

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            So… you’re a fascist?

            Communism provides a solution to capitalism by being a more democratic system, both politically, and economically. Not by being more authoritarian.

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              No I’m asking how what I said had anything to do with liberal ideology. Can you stay on topic?

              Most communist nations have not been very good when it comes to democracy. Not that they couldn’t be, but it obviously isn’t an inherent property.

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        I mean, in the the liberal west used violence to replace comunism with a right wing dictatorship. Yes.

        However that isn’t really a flaw in comunist theory

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          Yes. Basically, any time someone tries to do something nice for everyone and introduce communism, some people or other come along and fuck it all up. Then they call their fucked up monstrosity “communism” to further damage the credibility of any meaningful progress.

          Those people are the same people who fuck up capitalism and distort it for their benefit. Maybe it’s easier for them to do under capitalism, maybe that’s just what they’re used to and they don’t want to change, but if all you do is deal with capitalism as the problem then you’re still going to have a people problem with whatever comes next.

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        2 years ago

        Lmao, I literally read this exact same “argument” from a different user in a different thread five minutes ago.

        You guys really need to come up with some new material.