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    6 months ago

    I get the joke.

    But if, like me, you actually feel this here’s how I got away from it: make sure you actually understand things.

    Read the error message over and over again, look up the words, understand what it is saying.

    If something isn’t working, start reading the code and making sure you understand what each line is doing.

    It will feel incredibly slow and painful at first. Eventually you will strengthen those.muscles, however, and it’ll become second nature.

    Then you can cut and paste with confidence! 🤣

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        There are still some errors where you just need to know the fix. In that case it’s a baseball bat.

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        6 months ago

        Having worked at a copy place for a few years, that one makes me laugh every time.

        For those that don’t know, the error is Print Cartridge needs letter sized paper to be loaded. It is just out of paper.

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          You’d often get the error when there was paper in the printer though. Turns out the cause is the slightly different size between US letter page size and A4 page size. Technically the printer’s correct to complain (for the same reason it’d be correct to complain about an A4 sized print while full of A5), but virtually nobody gives a shit about that difference and so the “PC Load Letter” message just translated to “You have to push that stupid button before I’ll do anything because pedantry.”

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      ChatGPT is making me better because I’ve learned not to fucking trust it and double check everything it spits out to ensure its actually doing what’s asked of it.

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        I use it to help me lay out pseudo code and check it against what I come up with. It has made the way I structure things (and comment on things) way better.

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      Additionally, don’t copy and paste anything until you understand it. If you don’t understand what code golf is being spewed, don’t take the top answer. If you don’t understand any answer, you probably don’t understand the underlying systems well enough and need to re-evaluate what your asking for.

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        The only difference between a novice and a professional is that a professional checks what they are copying to understand it first before allowing it into their codebase.

        Novices copy code to avoid having to understand it. Professionals copy code to avoid reinventing the wheel.

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    You tell him “stop giving away our secrets!”

    And yeah, a lot of people in the comments are running away from the joke, but realistically, to copy+paste code and have it work, you generally have to have a grasp of the code, at least to ask what you want and to paste it and change the variable names, and write the lines to stitch it all together.

    Add imposter syndrome on top of that, and it may seem like you don’t do anything of use because you copied 3 functions out of a 1k line file.

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    I feel like most of my googling of simple code is because I know what I’m trying to do, but I don’t remember the correct function name and or language structure for the language I’m currently using.

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      This is about 50% of what I use ChatGPT for. Something I’ve done many times before, but I just need a quick reminder about the exact syntax.

      The other 50% is just creating DTOs that have properties that are suitable for parsing JSON or XML or can be used to dump data from SQL into. The boring shit.

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      I may do that already when I get stuck… Tbf I am trying to learn and only ask it to explain how to do something or if I have a bug I can’t figure out. I feel sometimes it’s just best to get an answer if I’ve been stuck for a while because I’m not making progress anyway.

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        It’s not too bad for learning a new language, but you still have to make an effort to understand why the code it’s giving you works… or doesn’t work which can happen often.

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          It’s so great at getting unstuck and learning news ways of doing thing that everyone knows but me. Even if most of its actual code is borked.

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            Yeah today after getting three bad answers in a row from ChatGPT I was quoting Thanos… “Fine. I’ll do it myself.”