• Jojo@lemm.ee
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    Girl is developing a very clear relationship with another girl, building over multiple arcs. And then a different author gets to write a book and instead of even trying to be subtle he just has the characters up on stage, announcing how they feel (it makes me feel angry):

    Chandra had never been into girls. Her crushes — and she’d had her fair share — were mostly the brawny (and decidedly male) types like Gids.

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    I can’t believe the amount of people in the comments that have never seen queerbaiting, I guess none of them watched Supernatural

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      You can’t convince me that Naruto and Sasuke were not meant for each other. Hinata and Sakura have like 0 chemistry with them.

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      I never finished supernatural. What was the qieerbaiting in that? I swear to the gods if you say “Dean didn’t fuck Sam” I’m gonna lose all hope in humanity.

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          …Wat. Dean is VERY straight and Castiel is an amorphous asexual agender “beyond human comprehension” concept possessing a human body. Just because Jimmy the dude he’s possessing is a dude doesn’t make it a dude. That’s been a thing the whole series with demons swapping from male/female bodies and seducing people in both. Cas doesn’t have a gender, or sex, or preference. Did tumblr go THAT fucking crazy over gay sex in supernatural they turned an agender asexual philosophical embodiment of an idea into a romantic love symbol? Holy reaching, Batman. Literally

          Also I got to like, two seasons before the end, I think

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            If you watched that many seasons and you didn’t see the Castiel and Dean queerbaiting, you are never going to see queerbaiting

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              Have you tried entertaining the thought that you’re expecting things where they don’t logically make sense? If you want a real example of queen baiting look at The Magicians. It had one of the most emotional deepest bonding episodes between two of the male main characters who -

              SPOILERS AHEAD

              lived an entire life together, decades, kids, I sobbed. And then they killed one of them right before they could get together. THATS the shit you should be upset about. Not this weird ass very clearly fanfiction between a straight man and an asexual.

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    My bi partner is still slightly annoyed that she’s had to settle for a man because none of the lesbians wanted to be with a bi girl.

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    Ah It doesn’t matter what gender any person is, but if two people have a strong bond, and one of those people has a strong bond with someone else too, an unfortunate part of being human is that there’s only so much of one person to go around. Can’t spend all your time with everyone. You have to pick someone. I know a magical man like that, there’s not enough of him to go around. Everybody wants him. He has to pick someone. Otherwise the best he can do is have parties all the time so everybody can be around him all the time.

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      It is the rotting corpse of a fish that lives in the higher pressure of the deep ocean after being turned basically inside out by being pulled up to the surface by humans trawling the seabed.

      It is a mascot for how we humans fuck shit up for our own amusement, right up there with the pug.

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    I absolutely find it annoying when romance is prioritized over friendship but this isn’t quite what queerbaiting is. At least, not on its own. Two same sex/gender people being very close and sharing a strong connection or even having some romantic undertones that never become “official” isn’t automatically queerbaiting. Those things can happen in real life without those relationships being or becoming romantic. Queerbaiting is when the writers/showrunners purposefully insert romantic subtext into the story and advertise it as if it will become canonically romantic with the primary intention of gaining more lgbt viewership, while never actually following through on those implied (or even occasionally explicitly stated) promises. The way it is presented and marketed is an important part of what makes it a problem, hence the “baiting” part. There’s nothing wrong with keeping a relationship ambiguous, or portraying a platonic relationship as being as deep, important, and emotionally intimate as romantic ones are typically portrayed without making them romantic, but if you try to manipulate or outright lie to viewers to make them think a relationship is going to be something it isn’t in order to gain their viewership and support, only to pull the rug out from under them, then that’s when it becomes sleazy, especially if you’re taking advantage of the fact that they’re a marginalized and under-represented group desperate to see more people like them in media.

    I know this is just a joke comic so “it’s not that deep” but I see a lot of people online who misunderstand what queerbaiting is and accuse shows/series of queerbaiting unfairly so I thought I’d bring it up.

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      The issue is that romance tends to be prioritized over friendship in media even for straight relationships, and so many romantic relationships are incredibly shallow or have very little reasoning behind them (the “I met this guy I have nothing in common with 2 days ago and we’re so totally in love let’s shoehorn in a sex scene” thing is played out so often for hetero romances) and LGBT relationships are so rare, that any subtext that even remotely hints at a queer romantic relationship has people grasping at straws. So companies use that to their advantage. They just dangle the barest hints of anything, because that’s all they need to get people. And they dare not show anything more than the tiniest of subtext anyways, because anything LGBT is considered sexually explicit by default. Just look at how much the creators behind The Legend of Korra and Steven Universe had to fight for the queer romances in their respective shows. Both almost got cancelled because the writers wanted to show those relationships (and the Korra one was even completely unintentional, the writers just kinda realized it was developing over the course of the series and decided to go all in on it).

      Edit: Forgot the part where they don’t openly hint at or mention it because they don’t want to piss off the homophobes. They want to straddle that line that let’s them have their cake and eat it too.