Here’s the thing, though. You don’t believe in dragons, okay whatever. But that’s not actually a good reason to say what you said, because dragonrider wasn’t a dragon. Dragonrider’s gender was dragon rider. You had it wrong the entire time. Dragonrider’s partner was the dragon.
Yes, a distinction I pointed out at the time, that “dragonfucker” was not a gender because it implied the existence of literal dragons, something I quoted Drag on at several points when people tried to weasel out like you are here.
I never fought with Drag over identity or pronouns. Nor did I say that dragonrider wasn’t a dragon. I said, elsewhere, apart from any argument with Drag, that I would and did use Drag’s pronouns, but that I didn’t believe in dragons, nor in people being mythical creatures - and being in touch with reality, apparently, is a step too far.
I think one of the reasons people didn’t take you seriously is because you didn’t even understand the people you were invalidating. So people perceived you as very low-effort and uninformed, you know?
“dragonfucker” was not a gender because it implied the existence of literal dragons
Why can’t a gender be defined by a relationship to something that doesn’t exist? To the impossible? Genders are social constructs, and fiction and myth exist in the social. Sex, sure, that needs reality, but why should gender?
Why can’t a gender be defined by a relationship to something that doesn’t exist? To the impossible? Genders are social constructs, and fiction and myth exist in the social.
Gender is not a social construct, gender labels are social constructs. There’s a difference. What you’re proposing is reducing gender to a favorite word rather than making any attempt to categorize trends in gender identity.
Sex, sure, that needs reality,
If gender doesn’t need that reality, why should sex? If someone identifies as the male sex, are you allowed to think they’re incorrect under any conditions?
Why are you complaining? You’ve won the argument, you successfully pointed out that the consequences of my belief that sex must be based on reality could be disastrous, and thereby changed my mind. I realised that if I ever met a trans person who said their sex was based on something unreal, I wouldn’t be so reckless as to contradict them. Thank you for that warning, you’ve enlightened me.
Yes, a distinction I pointed out at the time, that “dragonfucker” was not a gender because it implied the existence of literal dragons, something I quoted Drag on at several points when people tried to weasel out like you are here.
I never fought with Drag over identity or pronouns. Nor did I say that dragonrider wasn’t a dragon. I said, elsewhere, apart from any argument with Drag, that I would and did use Drag’s pronouns, but that I didn’t believe in dragons, nor in people being mythical creatures - and being in touch with reality, apparently, is a step too far.
Oh, what irony.
Why can’t a gender be defined by a relationship to something that doesn’t exist? To the impossible? Genders are social constructs, and fiction and myth exist in the social. Sex, sure, that needs reality, but why should gender?
Gender is not a social construct, gender labels are social constructs. There’s a difference. What you’re proposing is reducing gender to a favorite word rather than making any attempt to categorize trends in gender identity.
If gender doesn’t need that reality, why should sex? If someone identifies as the male sex, are you allowed to think they’re incorrect under any conditions?
I guess not, because that would be tyranny. You’ve convinced me that sex is a social construct as well as gender.
Lord.
Are any words allowed to have meaning, or is language itself tyranny?
Why are you complaining? You’ve won the argument, you successfully pointed out that the consequences of my belief that sex must be based on reality could be disastrous, and thereby changed my mind. I realised that if I ever met a trans person who said their sex was based on something unreal, I wouldn’t be so reckless as to contradict them. Thank you for that warning, you’ve enlightened me.