Words matter

    • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      Great question, and one that’s pretty fraught at the moment. I don’t have an answer beyond a tautology - a man is someone who identifies as a man - and the knowledge that some cultures assign adherence to certain behavioural norms to that (ex. A man acts as breadwinner, is competitive, has a certain type of physicality distinct from women, etc.), most of which crumble with any hard look at them.

      To be frank, I don’t really care about what a man or woman is. If identifying as a man if female, or a woman if male, makes it so someone doesn’t want to blow their brains out, then that’s a cool and good thing. But note the distinction - man != male and woman != female in my statement.

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        1 month ago

        some cultures assign adherence to certain behavioural norms to that

        Isn’t that sexism, something we should be fighting by saying “women can do that too?”

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          1 month ago

          It is, though noting the term sexism itself hasn’t been replaced with another that captures the distinction between biological sex and gender, at least one I know of. Gendered prejudice could be one, I guess.

          We should be fighting it in a couple directions:
          “Women can do that too”
          “Men can do that too”
          “Women don’t necessarily need to do that”
          “Men don’t necessarily need to do that”
          “People who do not consider themselves men or women can do that too, and/or not do that.”

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            It seems to me that saying that someone does not neatly fit into the category of man or woman is accepting that “category of man” and “category of woman” are valid categories. Rather than fighting sexism, it’s reinforcing sexism. If someone truly believed that cultural norms about what’s male and what’s female was sexist BS, there would be no need for a “they” pronoun.