But we could fix it, if we tried, all together.
I’m old and I still get surprise by how USA is addicted to cars.
you ever tried to get around USA?
Yes, and it’s ridiculous. American car culture is a mental illness.
Yes, Some places are halfway decent to get around, even smaller places, but usually only either in the east or maybe on the West Coast and then generally historic neighbourhoods as building new places that are not utterly hostile to humans is generally illegal nowadays in most places.
That’s my point. You build everything around cars like of there wasn’t anything else. I’m Canadian and we’re not muxh better, but you wouldn’t see a school like that here, and I didn’t need a car until my 30s.
Isn’t 90% of Canada’s population within 100 miles of the southern border or something? I’m not trying to make excuses for the US but it is a very large area to cover. We actually used to have much better passenger rail coverage than we do now so we’ve actively been making things worse :(
If you are going to treat children like this, just don’t have them.
You’re blaming the parents for a nation that has built its pride on paving over paradise?
Initial D vibes intensify
Multi track learning!
So, apparently this used to be a day club.
Then the freeway was built.
THEN Miniya Academies LLC bought the property and made it a charter school.
So, IMHO, all blame goes to Dayton SMART. (Who the fuck would want their kids to go there?)
This school apparently has tests scores well below the Ohio average. Big surprise.
Looking at the traffic flow, it looks like the ONLY way to get to this school is from the right lane, passing through the underpass. Elementary kids aside, this is a traffic safety nightmare. I thought Texas had bad zoning laws. Whoever approved this should have to work solely from this building for the rest of their life. Even the on/off ramp looks like a traffic nightmare.
Apparently you can do this as well. Nightmare intersection.
WTF is a “day club”?
🎶 fighter of the night club (ah-ah-aaaaah) 🎶
I’m guessing… the opposite of a night club?
Hey, there’s a sidewalk, that’s better than most cities in the US!
There’s a pedestrian path going to the left. Which even has a connection to a sidewalk and a bus route going there. For US standards this is basically a walkable city utopia
The cafeteria in question
Prison vibes
Holy cow you can hear the fluorescents buzzing just looking at it.
I really often wonder if school architects and prison architects are the same people. Both are cruel, deliberate, human containment pens made of concrete and steel.
My town just got through a couple decades of replacing all its schools but the old buildings are still around as community centers. The new ones are much less prison like than the old ones.
Maybe a lot of it is how long we keep most school buildings
First thing I thought of. No thanks. Poor kids.
It’s because we built a lot of the prisons at the same time we built a lot of the schools. They’re both usually intended to serve multiple generations, and while the usage requirements may grow they don’t grow so fast that you need to tear them down entirely and rebuild, usually just renovate.
They’re also usually designed with more functional requirements to makes certain parts of them mandatory.
For example, schools often must have a certain amount of windowless hallway where the walls are a prescribed strength for tornado safety. Needs to be within a certain range of each classroom, have a limited amount of potential debris, and so on. As a result, every school ends up with at least one “hub” hallway that’s fucking bleak as hell, because the storm shelter requirements also make it a very obvious hub to build classrooms off, and if you need to add more capacity: make the hall longer.I’ve seen some designs where newer schools are being built with the shelter but as a + in the middle, with a windowed hallway around the outside, or even just taking the same floor plan and bending it to give classrooms larger window surfaces.
Yes. Architects who design schools also design prisons. And the designs have a lot of similarity.
In the US the school districts are primarily for containment, then for indoctrination, then for edification.
Note that this changed momentarily after Sputnik and America decided it needed to get into gear. And the current Republican push to dismantle public education systems entirely are reactionary to that, since a lot of that generation dared to question authority.
I really often wonder if school architects and prison architects are the same people
Jester Dorms on the UTexas Austin campus were famously built by the state’s biggest prison contractor, by the same name.
Looks like a set from Squid Games
Damn. Imagine going to school in two backroom levels at once.
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How is this not considered a human rights abuse of children?
Because they’re hispanic kids
(Obviously it ought to be seen as abuse - but this is the shithole world we live in)
Children rights? Sounds like communism.
- actual US congress
Two federal appeals court judges appointed by Trump just ruled yesterday that the general public has no right to air in their homes free from tear gas, and therefore a lawsuit against ICE for heavily deploying tear gas (in a non-urgent situation no less) in a populated neighborhood has no merit for a suit.
Think about the implications of that in a country where life, liberty And the pursuit of happiness are the founding elements. Tear gas in your kitchen by state thugs.
I hope people are compiling a list of these fuckers so we know whose families to extradite from Argentina when this finally goes down.
You have no right to air in your home free from tear gas
Jesus-fucking-Christ that is unapologetically cruel
They go on the list. Let the grace and world they have envisioned for others be shared with them in turn. Funny how their perspective will suddenly change.
Trump just ruled yesterday that the general public has no right to air in their homes free from tear gas,
But lemme take a freakin guess: If you fart on the street when ICE agents are goose-stepping around, you’ll be lucky to escape alive for “deploying gas” and “assaulting an officer.”
I hope people are compiling a list of these fuckers so we know whose families to extradite from Argentina when this finally goes down.
And another list of state officials to replace the prisoners with. They deserve to enjoy the world they worked tirelessly to build.
In Ohio? Or outside of it?
Do they allow child workers in Ohio?
The Republican Party keeps trying.
Because I bet if you look at actual data you’ll find it’s just a poor school without a nice playground. Sad and could be fixed sure, but nobody is dying, nobody is screeching except the guy who had to go out and find the worst example they could 🤷
Your comment made me research your comment history, and it comes up to me as a miserable series of negative wording that contributes nothing of value or interest to the communities.
I don’t want and need such sentiment, and that’s the reason why I will block you after sending this comment. Blocking users in my eyes is a very important feature of the Fediverse and makes it palpable and nice. Other big platforms shove bullshit down your throat and are regulated top down - the Fediverse is different. I love it.
I wish you all the best and hope your life or at least your sentiment improves in the future. Have fun.
I have them tagged as “Dumbass AI Defender” and I can’t remember the comment that spurred that on but I do remember it being exceptionally dumb
Oh no, did I ruin the circle jerk? How many deaths at this school??!??? Is is really a death trap?
Great point, if they’re poor its fine because poor children don’t deserve happiness. The kids who get hit by cars or get sick from air pollution are statistically insignificant. It almost definitely won’t happen, and if it does, it doesn’t matter so long as they live to become workers and buy Amazon items, which is most important.
/s
Edit: like the person you responded to, I’m also blocking you now. They stated my reasons very well, and more kindly than I would.
Oh right, the roads made them poor 🤣
You’re kind of a shitty person
Kind of? LOL! I’d say extremely.
They cant see your comment.
And this attitude, friends, is why the United States is a shithole country.
I bet if you had gone to school here, you would be singing a different tune.
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As a thinking-out-loud digression, there was that movie several years ago, The Corporation, which took the idea of corporate personhood a step further, and psychoanalyzed them. (Spoiler: Corporations are extreme sociopaths.) I’ve talked to my brother, the professional therapist, about applying the same lens to cultures, and we agree: The United States is a deeply traumatized culture.
There are probably lots of reasons for it (settled by unpleasant weirdos who were kicked out of Europe, founded on genocide, slavery, a civil war, waves of immigrants who fled traumas in their home countries, etc.), but whatever the cause, this sort of shut-up-and-deal-with-it attitude that we don’t deserve a better physical environment feels like a trauma response at a societal level. (Also, see: The “I fear other people and don’t want to be near them” criticism of public transit.)
I’m an American immigrant in Germany, and looking at American culture with a bit more distance… yeah, 100%.
Personal space and general public respect are two areas where I notice it most- Germans are not an especially friendly or warm people (not a criticism, just a somewhat hackneyed observation), but they don’t require as much personal space, and even with a significantly more formal culture, strangers still yell at/aggress each other more frequently on the street, when someone’s doing something dickish or stupid, even in places big enough to be cities, but not big enough to give no fucks.
I was once awoken at ~4am by college kids drunkenly ringing everyone’s doorbells up and down my street. My first thought was, ”they’re gonna get shot.” My second thought was “they’re not gonna get shot- they’d probably be more polite if that was a risk.”
I think that explains the larger pattern as well: Americans are wary of each other. Not always, obviously, but generally speaking, anyone could be armed and anyone could be having a bad fucking day- I think that lurks in people’s subconscious and colors how people treat each other.
It’s a charter school aka money grab.
It was never built to be a school. It was converted.
You could argue that these “public” charter schools exist because of lack of investment in public schooling, but that’s wasn’t the point of the post.
I mean, really it’s public schools are under funded so they can convince people to funnel money into charter schools so someone can get rich.
Correct
I’m baffled that this is legal. Those kids will be breathing traffic fumes all day. Tire dust, highway litter, it looks like a literally toxic environment for kids to spend most of their day for most of the year. And that’s apart from the fairly obvious danger of having high speed traffic right next to a school.
Edit: My son just came home from school and added noise, and that you can only go to school by car, not by bike or walking (although I understand that’s not unusual in the US).
Fortunately that brake and tire dust is just asbestos, metal particulate, and microplastic so they should be good
Public education disparity in America is crazy. I had a good upbringing, I was an only child and both my parents had full time jobs. The only time I can really remember feeling jealous about seeing something someone else had an opportunity as when they were a kid was when I went to a performance at Milton High School. It’s a public highschool in Georgia and genuinely looked nicer than the college I went to. While I was in highschool, we had more trailers* outside than classrooms inside.
And I know that with a global perspective I still did have a very privileged education, but like the OP says, when we’re talking about what “the richest country on earth” is doing, it just doesn’t add up. It’s not like I wasn’t aware my highschool was shitty, even while I was there I knew it was, because we’d go to other ones for various events. But even the nicest ones I saw, that one still felt an order of magnitude nicer. A lot of it had to do with the performance. The school had some sort of partnership with Cirque de Solel (no idea how to spell it, and also I may have misunderstood and it wasn’t actually a partnership and just a play that they originally made). Seeing a fully packed, massive auditorium for a highschool performance that also involved acrobatics was just crazy. The arts are always underfunded, so I can only imagine how nice everything else was at this school. It’s basically in the wealthiest area of my state.
*: People outside the US or certain parts of the US might not know what this refers to. It’s like a mobile classroom (compared to a permanent structure, lol, same way a “mobile home” is “mobile”). These were used because the population growth in the area outpaced school constitution. So instead of building a new school which takes long, just throw trailers at the problem. But my highschool genuinely did have more trailers outside than rooms inside.
And just to reiterate, this was a public highschool. We should be investing more in our future by investing in education, both college and k12.
No surprises here.
Serving 94 students in grades Kindergarten-6, Dayton Smart Elementary School ranks in the bottom 50% of all schools in Ohio for overall test scores (math proficiency is bottom 50%, and reading proficiency is bottom 50%).
The percentage of students achieving proficiency in math is 11-19% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 54%). The percentage of students achieving proficiency in reading/language arts is 40-49% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 60%).
The student-teacher ratio of 16:1 is lower than the Ohio state level of 17:1.
Minority enrollment is 93% of the student body (majority Hispanic), which is higher than the Ohio state average of 35% (majority Black and Hispanic).
I imagine the discussion that resulted in this nightmare was quite racist. As soon as they realized the population they would be serving, they literally just said “Can’t we just put it under the freeway or something?”
I honestly thought there’s no way this is real but after seeing the comments and searching online, on the school’s own location link:
Good gods that is miserably tragic
Notice how they have reviews disabled on Google Maps. I wonder how many bad reviews they had before they decided to disable it.
Google doesn’t allow reviews of schools anymore and removed all of the old ones. Happened pretty recently.
Oh, I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
What was Google’s reason for removing reviews of schools?
It’s probably like detention centers and doctors: If you have to go, you’re probably not having a good time. XD
Good point. I never thought about that.
it was supposed to be bulldozed for the road, they ‘saved it’
on one hand it’s horrible, on the other hand, is it worse than shoving that couple hundred students into the already overflowing schools by putting up more rental trailers outside the existing schools?
You’ll never guess the skin color of the kids we put in there.
Just think of the pollution. The air, surrounded by heavy car traffic on all sides, must be outright toxic, never mind the noise, that maybe can be handled by very good windows (which I am not sure that building has).
The maybe craziest thing here might be that there is a safe underpass leading to the sidewalk of a much less terrifying street (the remnants of a main street, ravaged by neglect and car oriented developments), than that highway exit curve but it appears to be locked and blocked. I might be wrong but that doesn’t look like a path accessible to pupils or their parents.
