Remember that for every person who gets up from their arses and actually attends a demonstration like this there are a lot of others who agree with them but just don’t go there, especially if like in this case they have to go to a different city to attend the demonstration.
So 200,000 people in a country of 18 millions attending a demonstration in Amsterdam only for something which is not even going to bring them personal benefits (so it’s entirelly about Moral and Ethics) is yet another indication that Public Opinion in Europe is massivelly against Israel.
Yet politicians in Europe do just about everything they can to support Israel.
Now, Israel specializes in hacking smartphones and digital espionage in general, plus they were involved with Epstein and his massive international pedophilia operation that targetted VIPs worldwide.
Further, the later Neoliberal era seems to have a lot more corruption in politics than before and a lot more normalized (now generally of the “politicians ‘by any amazing coincidence’ retire from power straight into millionaire non-executive board memberships in companies they helped when in power” kind, rather than the good old “brown envelopes stuffed with cash”) even in countries which used to have a history of being cleaner than average.
So it’s quite likely that a lot of European politicians are being blackmailed by Israel after the latter gathered lots of kompromat on them via their digital hacking and surveillance operations and in some cases even via their pedophile honeypot operations.
Certainly that would explain the desperate support for Israel by European politicians in countries with Humanitarian traditions which are directly against the murderous ultra-racist actions of Israel.
A figure to consider: Palestinians killed by this regime, 75k. Thinking about about 40% of that crowd as dead people, it’s tragic.
That count is not Palestinians killed by Israel, it’s Palestinians killed by Israel whose bodies were brought to a Hospital and officially identified (i.e. matched with their state issued ID number).
Israel blew up most of the Hospitals. They also targetted the emergency vehicles that amongst other things brought the victims to the Hospitals and stopped fuel from getting into Gaza so those vehicles still intact couldn’t operate and similarly for the diggers that could be use to dig up people under destroyed buildings. Israel also has been blowing entire appartment buildings (often using the 2000lb bombs provided by America and known for their massive collateral damage) en masse, so many many corpses were never dug out from the rubble, especially by the point of the war when there were far more than just a few appartment buildings blown up (and all that takes is to check Google maps nowadays to so just how massive the percentage of blown up appartment buildings is by now).
So the real number is likely many times larger than those 75k, possibly by a factor of 10.
In fact an estimate of the deaths published in the Lancet Medical journal at around 1 year after the start of the war placed the number back then at around 200,000 (edit: as per the info provided by Garfunkel@lemmy.ca below it’s 186,000 - see here).
75k declared*** who knows how many corpses haven’t been taken out of the rubbles yet and how many more died by starvation.
That place is leveled and aid is being used as bait to shoot kids, no medical is available, humanitarians are banned, journalists are banned and the people left are being starved. There were 2million people before October 2023 I’d say at least 1 million are dead
That’s precisely the issue, France likewise still disputes the number of deaths from it’s occupation of Vietnam and Algeria, recent figures estimate 1.4 million for vietnam, and 8 million dead for algeria. We’ll probably know the figure in more than a decade for Palestine, if there are any palestinians left by then.
The only research document I know of that touches on it is this paper published in the The Lancet in 2024, it’s peer reviewed and estimates 186 000, but that was 2 years ago:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext
Australian here who is against Israel and their desire to slaughter everyone who isn’t Israeli.
The upside is that when America collapses that China will control Israel which is the opposite of the current deal with the US.
Xi Jinping is powerful and controlling and sometimes difficult.
He’s still better than Trump, Netanyahu and Putin.
I am a white man and I want to be a shill for Chinese control!
Israel and Russia are both terrorist states The USA is volatile and unable to be taken seriously.
Xi Jinping is my glorious leader.
Taiwan is also a country Hong Kong should be left alone.
Only 200? Imagine if they had 200,000.
That can’t be right. There are at least 300 people there.
Imagine there are other cultures with different number notations.
The only correct notation is 200_000
Hell, my country has two different number notations.
