Funny, I migrated back to the old faithful, Thunderbird.
Go fuck yourself Microsoft.
EDIT: To be fair to Microsoft, they did warn people this was gonna happen like a year ago. Still stupid.
The mail app ws perfect, it was so perfect.
Thunderbird or thebnew outlook app dont compare.
The Mail app looked great, but I would hardly call it perfect. It constantly failed to notify me of new emails or calendar events, and I know I’m not alone in that.
Desktop mail clients all seem to be dire, but Mail for Windows 10 seemed to suck a lot less than anything else. I, too, am a victim of it not noticing new mail for a couple of hours after it’s sent unless I explicitly refresh it, despite it being set to get new mail on push, but I’d still rather use it over Thunderbird, which I tried years ago, and tried again when they started warning about forcing Outlook onto people. Unfortunately, it looks like Mozilla decided that there were a non-zero number of good things about Outlook, and made a clone of it, as it’s got basically all the things I hate about Outlook.
Reminds me on how they forcefully started slowly upgrading everyone to the new Teams app, that doesn’t support half of what the previous one did. For example, the company I work at actually used the “Wiki” on Teams to create very long and detailed (many hours of work) important documentation for projects. It was not my choice, but it was how the company decided to work. Well the new Teams app killed the Wiki. We lost access to a lot of documentation and the managers took a long ass time to understand our problem and only did when their own Teams also updated. We had to revert back to the old teams and constantly click ignore on the upgrade notification, while at times mistakenly clicking accept and having to revert back again, until we copied everything out of Wiki and to another platform entirely. We lost a lot of (paid) hours to just copy and reformat the whole wiki from many projects into a new platform. All this were paid hours, and money that didn’t need to be wasted if it wasn’t for Microsoft complete retardness. This together with other retard moves on other office apps is slowly convincing my company to completely get out of the Office 365 for Enterprise, including Azure and other stuff just because Microsoft is really getting on our nerves lately.
I don’t understand how can Microsoft do so much shit and still be so widely used and so many companies absolutely depend on Microsoft. If Microsoft sneezes, half of the IT world shakes. But those who suffer just keep paying anyway. Are we all clowns?
This’ll be great at the business level: do you use Outlook, or Outlook?
Kind of like Teams: do you use Teams, Teams (New) or Teams (Home)?
Microsoft: failing at branding since 1992.
“I’m new to this Teams thing, but I’m now WFH so, yes.”
To be fair, classic Teams is being killed in 10 days.
To be even fairer, there was no need for New Teams apart from Microsoft’s increasing desire to make everything a fucking web app.
The last time I used ‘new’ teams I had serious issues with video, as in the video stream would keep wiggling 1 pixel left and right, really nauseating! 🤢
Wasn’t classic Teams already a web app?
I really hope that this might finally push more development of open source desktop email clients.
Thunderbird is just… messy. Too many “I like to tinker more than I like my software to work” options, and a good bunch of features I would expect standard in an email client as old as it that simply aren’t there. I don’t want to have to pick between 6 competing addons for the same basic functionality.
Too many “I like to tinker more than I like my software to work” options
I fail to see how this is a problem. What are you suggesting here? Eliminate all those options so it looks nicer?
Legitimately, what makes New Outlook so fucking awful is that they did exactly this. They cut out half of the actual usability, options, and functionality of Outlook to make a “clean, lightweight experience”. And it’s objectively terrible as a replacement.
This sentiment that software needs to get dumber because people can’t stand having to look at a bunch of options can seriously die in a fire.
Having the tinkerer options should come after making the software work. From my perspective, Thunderbird is a passable clone of a bad mail client. None of its tweakable options turn it into a good mail client, and so it would be a better mail client than it is had the effort spent on implementing the tweakable options instead been invested into making it generally better.
I like new Supernova layout. But, if you prefer classic layout you can try betterbird
TPM on my motherboard is forever disabled and I’m going down with the Windows 10 ship. Another couple years and Proton will be even better than it already is.
TPM on my motherboard is forever disabled
Assuming that’s a choice and not a hardward limitation, why?
Windows 11 won’t install if it can’t find a TPM chip, so disabling it means you won’t get stealth-upgraded to 11 when you’re least expecting it.
