• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    These Sociopathic Oligarchs have become a major global problem, and it is only going to get worse. These people have serious mental illness, likely OCD manifesting as a financial hoarding disorder. They can’t stop accumulating money, no matter how much they have, or the damage it does to society. They would literally kill millions of people if they thought it would increase their bank accounts.

    Look at the damage they’ve done as Billionaires, and imagine the problems they could cause as TRILLIONAIRES. They’ll be able to afford armies, especially if they form alliances. Then they can create their own sovereign nation, and start really throwing their influence around.

    How could they create their own country, that’s silly? Oh, I don’t know, maybe buy a giant island off the coast of Albania, which has miles of bunkers reinforced to withstand a NATO attack? Maybe Ivanka knows a place like that.

    These maniacs are a ticking hydrogen bomb, and we have to do every person on this planet the favor of eliminating this existential threat to mankind.

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      That island is a half hour drive down the coast from my parents house. The whole coastal area has been bought up by the super rich and developers. It’s really heartbreaking.

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    If the democrat victory carries over into action, watch Delon Husk (and google, amazon, openAI etc) become a progressive faster than the blink of an eye.

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      I wonder what they’re gonna do now, between a rock and a hard place.

      They need to remain Trump sycophants while also accounting for Democratic Congress.

      If the latter really push forward, billionaires will get into some very precarious position.

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    Since they are getting rich just because of people buying their stuff, the power is in buying. Stop buying. Watch La belle verte movie. There show how people stopped all this madness.

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      This doesn’t work in today’s world. Even if all of the fediverse and reddit would be on board with this idea, the impact might be less than 1% in missed sales, simply because the other 99% would not know about it because they don’t use social media, or it’s not in their algorithm, or it’s not on tv news. Plus you need to keep it going for a long time, not just a week until a different topic overtakes.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      Many of these people don’t have fortunes from consumer goods. An awful lot of them are making money out of thin air. They create markets that rise, bubbles that grow, manipulate markets, etc., and the value of their investments go way up. No products were created, distributed, purchased. That’s too much trouble. Better to just manipulate numbers on a spread sheet, and voilá, wealth out of thin air.

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      That just works when the people buy directly, not thru government contracts or subsidies.

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      It’s of just Musk, it’s billionaires as a whole. One may have very hard time not buying anything from them while still surviving.

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      I get the sentiment, and it has some merit, but when we think of the children, we need to think of all of them. Will inaction here hurt more children, and people overall, in other places?

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      “think of the children!!!”

      Really… Everyone, including those children, are suffering because of these people. A gentle “doxxing” (what is public available information for every other individual) as a warning is nothing compared to the harms they inflict daily.

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        1. not everyone else’s info is publicly available. I can’t just look up where you live.
        2. the doxxing itself isn’t what OP warns about, but acting with the information in a dangerous manner
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    I will get banned for this, perhaps: I seriously think we should be setting their houses on fire. Show them they are not welcome on this planet. Just fucking revolt against them.

    I simply do not see another way. They have all the money in the world to change public opinion and manipulate everything to their gain. We have to not play the game, ignore everything and just get rid of them without going trough the “proper means”. The proper means do not work.

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      That day may be coming, but we’re not there yet.

      I’ve been telling people who have been criticizing America for not getting violent, that we have two Constitutional checkpoints to go through before violence becomes the appropriate tool. The first was the Midterms, which we got through in spectacular fashion, far better than I even dreamed. We proved, far beyond ANY doubt, that Dem voters have serious POWER in this country, and they are now fully mobilized like never before. Most importantly, we didn’t just prove that to MAGA, we proved it to Dem voters themselves. In the future, it will be far easier to mobilize them, now that they’ve done it, and was such a big success that everybody was rewarded with happiness.

      Now we have to keep it together to get through the 2028 Presidential Election, where we can elect a Democratic president, and increase our majorities in Congress. Ted Cruz, for instance, is up for reelection in 2028. It will be fun to end his political career.

      If MAGA decides to create a situation in which they feel they can eliminate the election, THEN it will be time for violence.

      If we get through the election without a problem, he is almost certainly going to try to pull a Maduro, and just try to stay in office, no matter what the outcome of the election was. In that case, the violence will be directed only at the criminal who is holding the White House hostage.

      Violence is a tool, to be used in the appropriate situation. If you needed a screwdriver, you wouldn’t start pounding it with a hammer. The next project is the 2028 election. We just need to stay the course, and not let them knock us off our strategy. We managed to do that for the last two years, now let’s do that for the next two years, and get our country back.

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      I think someone should build a simple, relatively cheap drone with a bomb and open source the design. Make it so anyone with a 3d printer and some basic supplies can hit their property from a reasonable distance away. Make them afraid to have that wealth.

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      I don’t think this is particularly crass. They are free to just not hoard all the wealth and do the worst things. Then people wouldn’t blame them for the things they cause.

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        And these guys just go around buy up hearts and minds, burning down their 100th place of residence would only get spun into some dystopian novel used against your cause. Yet we are watching Albania step up and threaten something like this but that has many layers and they are organizing VS someone on the internet suggesting lone wolf vigilante justice , or I could be wrong.

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      At some point one would think high ranking military might break off and start forcing change, before that might happen , doing stuff like this would only allow for legal actions to be taken against people burning down a parasites 100th address. Following the rule of law is necessary if you want to keep the general population on your side, Until it isn’t.

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      Who do you think pays for the daily show or Last Week Tonight? The billionaires you like?

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    “Plan to”?

    Uh yeah that’s not how this stuff works. You don’t announce your plans like that, you just do them.

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    A lot of stuff what billionaires are doing shouldn’t be swept under personal privacy.

    “Don’t bug me, it’s my own business how I spend my money”, some would say. For random people, that’s true. But when you command absurd amounts of wealth, maybe all of that stuff has consequences to the rest of the society.

    We demand transparency from people who have power over our lives, and oligarchs shouldn’t be an exception to that rule.

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      Every trade that exceedes 1 Million should have one neutral agent™ that approves the trade.

      For every new Million a new agent should be around to Approved the trade.

      No Person can have the same neutral agent twice in their Trading.

      Trade volume is saved for a years and if traders exceed their Million in a years the last trade needs to be supervised

      Etc.

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      A good quote I remember hearing from somewhere is “when you vote with your wallet, the people with more money get more votes.”

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        Billionaires own the people who control the means of mass destruction: Trump who suffers from dementia and Hegseth who’s an alcoholic and a moron. They both suffer from brain-damaged levels of stupidity and can be easily goaded into a nuclear attack whenever it suits billionaires to have one.

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          1. Billionaires and Capitalism.
          2. Abrahamic religions. (no problem with Voodoo or Shinto or Sikhism or Bahai or …) Prosperity gospel is not ok. Saying that hell is mostly filled with women and that women are less capable of civic life than men is not ok.
          3. War.
          4. Boom (for some) and Bust (some never experience the downside, some never experience the upside) cycles and economic fuckery like prices bieng too high or just volitile, many rented instead of owned across the board domisiles, ads, paid subscriptions, spam, scams, gamblified everything, climate and energy mismanagement, science and all other legitimate human needs bow to the “need” for profit and lately the “need” for aristocratic rule (Trump and Musk and Yarvin aren’t the only ones who want to be kings over me), etc.
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            Bahá’i is also an Abrahamic religion, by the way. It basically splintered from Shia Islam.

            Prosperity gospel is not an original feature of Christianity nor of Islam. Rich people who’ve been dodging taxes would certainly populate hell as imagined in these traditions.

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              Bahai is an eclectic remix, redo, reframe of the old “hits”. I don’t consider it Abrahamic only pecause Bahaullah was inspired by Abrahamic religion. The flavor is completely different, and the behavior too. I don’t see Baha’i as a threat the same way Christianity, Islam, and some conservative strains of Judaism are.

              What matters to me are not words, but function. What do their clerics preach? What do their doctrinal documents say? I judge every religion harshly. Many doctrinal statements do not pass the sniff test.

              That said, the people for whom the religions serve as cultural background, are not simply robots who implement all aspects of relidious doctrine at all times. I judge people on how they live their lives, and on what they want to do in the world as I intimately know and experience it.

              So Zohran is great, but not Islam. Talarico is great, but not Christianity. I may agree with many things Pope Leo says, but my world is better without the Catholicism. Etc.

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    Generally, I am anti-doxxing… but the billionaire class at the very least deserves loud protests outside their little enclaves.

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      Generally, I am anti death-penalty… But the billionaire class, at the very least, deserve guillotines, gallows, and their heads on spikes outsider their little enclaves

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      They have blood on their hands. Indirectly maybe, but there is a LOT of blood. They deserve much worse than protests

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      Most of them are wealthy because they effectively mass scale doxx everyone to advertisers anyway.

      They hate shit like VPNs and places not using any linked ID info and online handles and shit. Anything providing any later of anonymity.

      Fuck these people.

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        Totally correct.

        And the only reason we’re getting movement on spyware TV’s is because these bastards are affected by it.

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      it doesn’t count when you do the same thing back to someone that they’re doing to you

      if they have all our data, we can have all their data

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          Is your point supposed to be a critique of removing billionaire privacy on anti-“an eye for an eye” grounds? It’s not revenge or retaliation. It’s parity. If they can put us in a surveillance state, they should be spied on too. Why would we take the moral high road over the people trying to kill the planet for profit? Fuck 'em.

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      At least in this case “doxxing” could restore an asymmetry: Billionaires own the major internet platforms, they already know a good portion about a big number of people. It’s just not called doxxing.