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This is really needed. There is a lot of inequality and labour exploitation in china at the moment.
Now they have surpassed the west in most facets they shouldn’t have to work so hard to grow anymore.
That’s not really how development works. China marketized underdeveloped industries, and increases control and folds them into the public sector as they reach monopoly scale. Tech is now reaching that level in China, and thus the CPC is increasing control. The working class is constantly improving in their conditions in China, this is a factor of development, and a testement to the socialist development of China.
Conditions have been consistently improving although many workers still face long hours and far from ideal working conditions, especially in privately owned companies. Now that the living conditions for Chinese workers are among the best in the world they should no longer need to work so hard to expand there productive forces.
This is more of an ultraleft take on development. China cannot simply take it easy while the US Empire is a near-peer power. Conditions will continue to improve, and working hours will continue to lower, but the fact that they have not decided that they have “enough” and pushed a hypothetical communism button is more restricted by development than political will. China is a massive country, development takes time and energy to move even the smallest countries.
I didn’t mean to say they could just half the workweek or something like that. More that they shouldn’t need to work as hard now that they are on par or ahead of the US.
If anything, now is the time when the US is most likely to start something, so they need to increase the gap as much as possible. Socialist countries cannot ignore the threat of the US.
Really? I had thought the risks are diminishing now considering the chances of the US waging a successful war campaign against china being so low.
They are low, but they are also lowering. If the US wants any chance at all, it needs to strike as soon as possible, probably from the ROK or Taiwan (or a trifecta including Japan). China wins by advancing faster and faster, becoming a country that surpasses European living standards without any of the imperialism or den industrialization, while having a military the US can never hope to beat. That means they can’t let off the gas for likely decades.
It’s not a bad thing, though. They work ~47 hours a week on average, and their living conditions are constantly rising. I assume this number will gradually fall as well as they develop more and more. It won’t likely be a button press, even if they lower the working hours legally it will still be based on objective material conditions from developed means of production.
a successful one, yeah, but the US is becoming more and more unhinged and is still capable of mass murder of civilians
exactly
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LMAO the USSR did the equivalent of a century of capitalist development in a few decades. Russia went from being an agrarian society to being first in space thanks to central planning.
You keep on waiting for China’s economy to slow down though, it’ll happen any day now.
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I do read more than you that’s how I know you’re clueless. Being a smug European, you’re gonna be pretty surprised when your shithole country is the one that ends up collapsing.
You should read less garbage.
I see you’re familiar with Gordon Chang
No? As firms centralize, public ownership becomes not only necessary, but more effective and efficient. The Soviet economy was one of the world’s fastest growing up until its dissolution.
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What part do you disagree with, and why? Surely you can make a coherent argument without just insulting others.
You’re living proof of that.
I’d love to hear why you think this is bad
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the rest of the world is happy for china, is only you fucking nazis that say that kind of shit. good thing the west is turning into a shithole third world piece of shit. enjoy your collapse you human turd.
In a way, yes. The last 10 years has seen China trying to discourage economic growth that isn’t actually benefiting the people. They’re avoiding bubbles, and trying to direct resources towards the welfare of China. For examples of this, look at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houses_are_for_living,_not_for_speculation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neijuan#Economic_overproduction
Just look at the “economic growth” in the US the last few years. It’s all AI-based speculation. It’s economic growth, but it’s clearly a bubble.
You seem to construct your argument from some rumours you once heard from indoctrinated ideologues and you don’t even bother connecting the two claims ? Why are you spreading informational noise like this ?
Who gains from you learning and regurgitating these nonsensical illogical arguments and conclusions ? Could it be the oligarchy in your country/hemisphere that by any chance benefits from convincing people like you that Capitalism great, socialism bad ?
Would such a thing be worth investigating a little, you think ? Hmm ?
Please kindly educate your self to a basic level where you can criticise your own current opinions, your knowledge level, where your knowledge comes from and how to create a basic logical argument from scratch. That would greatly help everyone get smarter. Thank you…
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Crazy way to admit you don’t read.
