Yes but being made to fly actually hurts them because they aren’t ready for the pressure differences.
They aren’t crying just for the hell of it as much as everyone likes to joke about that being the case, that’s literally the only way they have to express that they need something or that they’re in some kind of distress for a good stretch of the time after they’re born.
Until the kid is able to sit still and be relatively quiet all you’re doing by forcing them onto the plane is imposing the very loud and painful results onto everyone else just trying to travel.
This goes for movies and restaurants and other such public places, though at least now you’re not also actually hurting the kid by bringing them into that situation. Still being as much of an ass to everyone else just trying to go about their business though.
If you’re mad that you’re not allowed to go anywhere anymore, hire a babysitter to take the break you’re imposing onto everyone else or maybe consider that next time before you bring a being who won’t learn to sit still and stop screaming for everything the want and need for years to come into the world.
You’re assuming a lot about a person’s situation who would be traveling internationally with a baby. They may not have a choice.
In general, babies and their parents have as much right to exist in public as you do. Of course the courteous thing to do when your child is being disruptive is to try and calm them or remove them from the situation, but that’s not always possible. I’ve gone into a restaurant with a very happy baby that only turns sour after the food is ordered. All you can do sometimes is just try to mitigate it until you can get your food in to-go boxes and get out.
Also worth noting that the main issue with flying for babies is the pressure change and not being able to deal with it. People will often yawn or chew gum to relieve it, and for babies you can give them a bottle or something chewy (depending on age) and it does the same thing.
Unless you’re literally moving across the world there’s no excuse. Just take the train and get a sleeper car if you need to travel long distance continental.
Order take away from the start if you want restaurant food so bad, wait for the movie to come out on stream if you want to see it so bad, just stop putting your loud and uncontrollable kids onto everyone else.
If you spend half the energy actually parenting the kids that you just did defending why you shouldn’t have to even if they disrupt everyone else’s time in public, you’d have kids that wouldn’t be an issue well on schedule.
What the hell? You don’t know me or my kids, why are you coming at me about my parenting? You’re talking out of your ass about raising kids. They don’t go straight from babies to adults, there is a lot of in-between, trial-and-error. Sometimes they cry, in public even (gasp), and we handle it. Sometimes they misbehave and we handle it. They’re not going to learn anything by being locked away from society. And if being out in public with other people who might have children with them is so hard for you, maybe you should order in and watch Netflix.
Travel by land/sea is WAY more expensive and WAAAAAY more time-consuming than flying. If you can’t deal with a relatively short flight where there’s a chance that a child might make some noise, I’d recommend YOU take the land or sea route. Much more comfortable, please enjoy.
It’s a pretty easy problem to solve, give them a bottle or sucking snack just before takeoff and landing, and keep them tired so they sleep most of the way. We’ve traveled with babies and it’s really not an issue most of the time.
Then again, we had to deal with two blowouts (huge poops that escape the diaper) on the same flight, so there certainly are hiccups you can’t plan for. But most of our trips with babies have been pretty okay.
Yes but being made to fly actually hurts them because they aren’t ready for the pressure differences.
They aren’t crying just for the hell of it as much as everyone likes to joke about that being the case, that’s literally the only way they have to express that they need something or that they’re in some kind of distress for a good stretch of the time after they’re born.
Until the kid is able to sit still and be relatively quiet all you’re doing by forcing them onto the plane is imposing the very loud and painful results onto everyone else just trying to travel.
This goes for movies and restaurants and other such public places, though at least now you’re not also actually hurting the kid by bringing them into that situation. Still being as much of an ass to everyone else just trying to go about their business though.
If you’re mad that you’re not allowed to go anywhere anymore, hire a babysitter to take the break you’re imposing onto everyone else or maybe consider that next time before you bring a being who won’t learn to sit still and stop screaming for everything the want and need for years to come into the world.
You chose to be a parent, goddamn act like it.
You’re assuming a lot about a person’s situation who would be traveling internationally with a baby. They may not have a choice. In general, babies and their parents have as much right to exist in public as you do. Of course the courteous thing to do when your child is being disruptive is to try and calm them or remove them from the situation, but that’s not always possible. I’ve gone into a restaurant with a very happy baby that only turns sour after the food is ordered. All you can do sometimes is just try to mitigate it until you can get your food in to-go boxes and get out. Also worth noting that the main issue with flying for babies is the pressure change and not being able to deal with it. People will often yawn or chew gum to relieve it, and for babies you can give them a bottle or something chewy (depending on age) and it does the same thing.
Unless you’re literally moving across the world there’s no excuse. Just take the train and get a sleeper car if you need to travel long distance continental.
Order take away from the start if you want restaurant food so bad, wait for the movie to come out on stream if you want to see it so bad, just stop putting your loud and uncontrollable kids onto everyone else.
If you spend half the energy actually parenting the kids that you just did defending why you shouldn’t have to even if they disrupt everyone else’s time in public, you’d have kids that wouldn’t be an issue well on schedule.
What the hell? You don’t know me or my kids, why are you coming at me about my parenting? You’re talking out of your ass about raising kids. They don’t go straight from babies to adults, there is a lot of in-between, trial-and-error. Sometimes they cry, in public even (gasp), and we handle it. Sometimes they misbehave and we handle it. They’re not going to learn anything by being locked away from society. And if being out in public with other people who might have children with them is so hard for you, maybe you should order in and watch Netflix.
A. Trains? What trains? We don’t have shit for trains here.
B. Oceans? Did you consider those?
A. Literally all of those High Speed Rail fantasy maps are just superimposed on existing routes.
B. You do realize that makes taking the kid on the plane even worse right, there are passenger ships that travel between the continents.
Travel by land/sea is WAY more expensive and WAAAAAY more time-consuming than flying. If you can’t deal with a relatively short flight where there’s a chance that a child might make some noise, I’d recommend YOU take the land or sea route. Much more comfortable, please enjoy.
It’s a pretty easy problem to solve, give them a bottle or sucking snack just before takeoff and landing, and keep them tired so they sleep most of the way. We’ve traveled with babies and it’s really not an issue most of the time.
Then again, we had to deal with two blowouts (huge poops that escape the diaper) on the same flight, so there certainly are hiccups you can’t plan for. But most of our trips with babies have been pretty okay.