This comic is kinda old already, but still stays relevant.

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    The Ukrainian post-coup government was hand-picked by the US, there’s even leaked conversations of the picking being done.

    Right wing national groups, famously large ultras were just way better organised than any other group in Ukraine.

    That’s the very short conclusion, for why the initial cabinet was full on nationalists.

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      Sure. That, and the fact that the cabinet was hand-picked by the US, as was shown through leaked phone calls.

      Besides that another question one might ask is “Why were the right wing militias so much better supplied and organised?”

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        Because sports fans are psychos is the very short answer. The former president didn’t feel the need to suppress Ultra organisations, as he saw them as weekend warriors fighting one another.

        It’s quite common world wide that football ultras are among the best organised groups in their local arena. Same shit happened in Brazil, for the protests that ended up getting Jair elected - Despite the majority of demonstrators on the street being fairly left wing. The Ultras were organised cells, that managed to capture the movement and give Jair the much needed push to be a true contender

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          You know, I don’t think sports clubs are inherently right wing. More likely the left was selectively targeted like they always are.

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            Sports clubs aren’t, but hooligan movements are often male dominated alt right manifestations

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          Jair Bolsonaro? The other guy who got installed with the backing of the US? You dont ever stop to consider that maybe there’s more going on than just “people being psychos”? You dont ever stop to wonder why these movements happen to have the resources, skills and manpower necessary to organise and mobilise right on cue to install some stooge picked out by the US state dept? You really just contend yourself with “because people are crazy”?

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            They’re organised because they’ll lose to the other Ultras in their “football related activities”. That’s why they’re organised.

            Pretty common to have some degree of ties to whichever groups distributes drugs and well… One or several martial arts clubs, as they practice unsanctioned fights for fun