I see a lot of people complaining that the Fairphone 6 doesn’t have an Aux jack.
Just use an adapter cable.
A 3.5mm Aux jack takes up a significant amount of space just to connect a few wires that could be connected through USB-C anyway, that space could be used for a bigger battery.
Even if there was a good enough reason to keep Aux it should be 2.5mm Aux and not the usual 3.5 as it does exactly the same thing but uses less space
that space could be used for a bigger battery
This is the truly bizarre part. Removing thr 3.5mm port is about thinness.
It is the antithesis of increasing battery life.
Yes, optimizing thinness is the antithesis of increased battery life.
No.
Yeah… I disagree. One only thing that I got to give to bluetooth headphones is dealing with the cable - sometimes it’s just more preferable to have no wires, especially during sport activities.
I’m still on the lookout for the next phone with a headphone jack. I was so hoping for it to be the next fairphone, but sadly that’s not it. (Old small ZenFone was perfect but software support of Asus is ass)
I’ve taken apart a phone for the purposes of replacing a battery. While everything is very compact as you can imagine, there is also a surprising amount of unused space. I’ll admit I’m not an engineer, so I don’t know if this space is error margin for manufacturing tolerances or something, but there is certainly enough room for a jack to be installed were this space tightened up just a little.
STRING THEM UP, FELLAS
Dafuq kind of take is this?
notices what sub we’re in
oh, I see. Carry on.
I hate how small the USB-C connector is though! They’re fragile and wear out pretty quickly. Everybody discounts the round barrel jack size as if it’s a bad thing, i think it’s the exact opposite. It’s large and the internal contacts are similarly large which keeps them working forever lol
Usb C is far more resilient than the micro B connectors it replaced. What are you doing to your type C ports that makes them wear out? Could just be dust stuck in there, easy to scrape out with a toothpick
I’m comparing it to ports larger ports like 3.5 and USB-A. The ports in the phone are fine, but the plugs on the headphone end wear out like crazy. Carrying a phone in my pocket with a USB-C header sticking out for a while day of work causes it to wiggle around no matter what I do. Eventually I realized it was a losing battle 😐
Not enough room for a 3.5mm audio port, but we absolutely must have a 50MP dual camera plus TOF sensor!
It’s more that it’s redundant and takes up a lot of space, you can just use USB-C
Yeah just remove the camera and connect an external camera to the USB-C port.
Just give me a featureless brick and I’ll pay for the dongles I want. Like the screen dongle and the sound dongle. All through USBC ofc
Framework actually kind of did this with their laptops ports 🤣
Show me an affordable dongle that supports full speed passthrough charging and clean audio simultaneously. Then, I’ll agree on redundancy.
Once again, remember folks, this is unpopular opinions. Which means this is a good post, not a bad one.
But…but…but…
I just wanna strangle him. Can I strangle him a little? Just a little choke…
You’re going need an AUX cord for that.
Good thing it isn’t plugged into anything
So long as you promise it’ll be under 10 seconds
Longer!! I want to see the light
Funny saying this to the moth guy
This. This is my legacy now 😭
Yes, if you can untangle the aux cord currently strangling you, you can turn its power against him
strangle with upvotes
I suspect this is unpopular in the tech community, but if this were truly an unpopular opinion, then phones without a headphone jack wouldn’t sell, and they would be replaced in the next generation. Instead, it seems like I get fewer and fewer options each time I look for a phone at the intersection of qualities that matter to me (unlocked bootloader, sd card, headphone jack).
Used for a bigger battery? Lol. OP has never taken a phone apart. Aux port might get you another 20mah. Out of that 4,415mah battery.
I have seen so many people say the 3.5mm port takes up room, and it is such a crock of shit. The space it takes up is practically non existent and it costs almost nothing implement.
Like literally if I’m making a custom circuit board, or even bread boarding, with a microcontroller of all the IO currently on phones a 3.5mm jack is probably the cheapest and easiest thing to implement. It’s a hell of a lot less of both than say a finger print scanner and I don’t see anyone calling for those to be removed despite the fact that many people don’t use that feature.
I don’t use the fingerprint scanner cause cops can force you to unlock your phone by fingerprint, but not by pin or pattern.
Exactly!
Analog ports all the way.
Extremely misinformed post. Upvoted.
Counterpoint:
External DACs on multiple recent generations of Pixel devices frequently experience severe distortion and Google seems to not give a shit about fixing that.
I literally cannot use wired headphones or speakers with my phone even with relatively high end equipment without horrific audio glitches.
I have issues even with the simplest Apple USB-C to 3.5 mm dongle on my phone. The USB side rocks back and forth, disconnecting from the phone and exploding my ears with popping noises.
It’s also flimsy as hell.
I disagree, truly unpopular well done.
Well, that’s definitely an unpopular opinion.
For me, there are two reasons losing the aux port sucks. First, it means I have to pay extra for functionality I want. It’s not like the phone is cheaper without the aux port so it’s just more money out of pocket for me. Second, it means I have to keep track of a dongle. Something I’d be using nearly everyday.
The funny thing about battery size; they could make the phone 1mm thicker and you’d get way more battery capacity from that than removing an aux port.
Also, wireless sucks dick. May as well give my own unpopular opinion.
I used to be a big fan of rhythm games on android, but the loss of the headphone jack has completely killed it for me. Bluetooth latency is still like 200ms, it’s insane. I can’t stand to even watch video with it
You can have wired USB C headphones with no latency.
Also any good headphones should compensate by delaying the video a bit. At least on iOS with Airpods the audio and video are almost perfectly synced. Same with any other bluetooth headphones I’ve used. I did have a REALLY old BT speaker with like a 500ms delay and that was very noticeable. But that speaker is over 10 years old and cost $20.
Also any good headphones should compensate by delaying the video a bit
Video yes, but that doesn’t work with games. New Bluetooth devices are a lot better than older ones when it comes to latency, especially Bluetooth 5 devices I’ve noticed, but they’re still not very good. Wired or dongle-based wireless still have way, way better latency
The fact that codecs like aptx aren’t ubiquitous on all android devices is one of the biggest reason why it never switch back. Aptx when the two devices support it is beautiful. Low latency, high quality. Perfect. But even nice devices don’t always support it (I’m looking at you google) It’s a solved problem, but manufacturers can’t get their shit together.
Then you have manufacturers like Sony who produce butt loads of Bluetooth paraphernalia, but can’t make Bluetooth on their phones work for shit. Bluetooth key for his Tesla doesn’t work for him unless his wife turns off BT on her phone first.
The funny thing about battery size; they could make the phone 1mm thicker and you’d get way more battery capacity from that than removing an aux port.
Z space is not at a premium, X and Y space are. A 3.5mm jack takes up a TON of space in all dimensions. The PCBs of modern phones are TINY compared to the phones of old.
“a TON of space” Give me a break, older phones that were quite literally a small fraction of the size of modern smartphones were able to house them just fine. The space is minimal and everyone knows it. The reason that Apple got rid of it was mostly so that they could push their first party wireless headphones and make a killing. And it worked out very well for them. Everyone else followed suit because… Apple did it!
Z space is at a premium too, because consumer studies (according to Fairphone) show that people want slimmer phones. More so than functionality like 3.4mm TRRS.
