• freagle@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Is this that thing about going into Ukraine without helmets, body armor, and guns?

    I wish you could see what that really means because if it were true that Russian soldiers were sent in without gear in the last couple of weeks it is also true that Ukraine is still losing ground to those soldiers which means unarmored and unarmed Russian soldiers who are eating tree bark for sustenance and scavenging for guns and ammo are still able to push the UA back.

    So which is it? The Russians are not gaining ground or they are and they’re doing it without gear?

    Also. If it was 4:1, with Ukraine having lost at least 400k, that would mean Russia losing 1.6M which is at least 20% more than the entire size of the Russian military before the invasion.

    That math just ain’t mathing.

    • ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
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      No it’s a thing about how Russia (even back into the SU) has had a military culture of feeding the meatgrinder.

      America gets pissed off if you touch their boats and will make foreign kids afraid of the sky. Canada will say sorry while inventing new and interesting ways to commit war crimes. The French will surrender unless it’s someone else’s war. And Russia will dominate battlefield logistics by making their enemy run out ammo.

      All of these stereotypes are exaggerations, but have some basis in historical truth.

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        2 days ago

        It’s wild how you think your interpretation of history is water tight.

        America has never been invaded and has never had to defend it’s territory with the life of its people. Neither has Canada.

        Russia was fighting for its survival against Napoleon and against the Third Reich. Massive militaries with a singular focus invading The Borderlands (The Ukraine) and crossing into Russia. Those campaigns were massive existential threats. Russia never attempted to invade Vietnam with superior air cover the way the US did.

        You can’t compare American battle tactics to Russian tactics when the entire context is fundamentally different. Did Russia invade Afghanistan? No. Did it use human wave tactics when it intervened in Czechoslovakia? No.

        So then what actual examples do we have? Napoleon’s invasion and Hitler’s invasion. Both existential wars of defense.

        Imagine blaming a country’s military strategy for its soldiers dying under the worst invasions the world has literally ever seen.