Many people who loudly pride themselves for tolerance, kindness, and openness toward difference drop those principles the moment someone expresses a preference or view they dislike. Disagreement itself is fine. What is not fine is the usual responses that follows: comments whose main purpose is to insult, shame, and make the other person feel small, delivered in front of an audience that can be counted on to approve.

It’s status performance. The goal is not to show why the opinion is wrong or change minds; it is to hurt the speaker and fish for applause. Feeling morally justified does not change the nature of the act; when the sole intention is to hurt they’re being evil and a bully.

The people who upvote or otherwise reward those insults are part of the same behavior. Standing by and cheering while someone is targeted is participation. It supplies the social payoff that makes the cruelty worthwhile.

This is one of the reasons large parts of the internet feel needlessly hostile. When perceived moral superiority is used as cover for meanness, and when an audience reliably encourages it, the result is environments where many people simply stop speaking. The claimed values of kindness and tolerance are revealed, in those moments, as conditional.

And no, this isn’t about being tolerant towards people with extreme views. The idea for this post was sparked by my previous post about AI music and the vicious personal attacks I received for admitting to enjoying some of it.

  • PepperoniNipple@lazysoci.al
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    MAGA is global. We are literally talking about the people that support those ideologies, no matter the country. You’re arguing that I should be nicer to them, which comes across as evil. You’re trying to protect evil from hearing “harsher language” or facing their consequences. You don’t want them to experience the ire, anger and desperation they themselves planted and sowed.

    If you are being genuine, if your gamble is that kindness is the path right now, you can do it. I am not getting in your way, I am making your job easier if anything as I already explained. It’s a real psychological phenomenon, I didn’t made it up.

    Or are you trying to guilt-trip me to try and censor me? To shut me up because I am being very effective at slapping rapeblicans down? All it takes is to spam this comment in different social medias, to plant the seed in their heads:

    “How come you will never have even a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at their age, like 7+ children, a home at 19 years old, economic stability, or at least a happy family of four without a college degree? What happened? Are they smarter, work harder, or what?”

    Absolutely no one, for the past year I’ve been using this after I myself came up with it, has been able to dismantle or counter it properly without looking like assholes. Whether they say they are an outlier, or try to justify their misery by saying baby boomers had it easier, different times or whatever, it won’t matter. Once they show their true colors, it’s so easy to humiliate them in front of all the silent readers.

    They are incredibly narcissistic, they CANNOT withstand being seen as less, of being told the truth, that an old man who babbles about the Bible all day and didn’t go to college had a more fulfilling, fortunate and joyful life than they did and will ever do. Since the majority of the Americans that are terminally-ill online are usually Middle-Top Class nepo babies who can afford an air conditioner or a computer unlike half of the world, it becomes impossible for them not to compare what they have vs what their parents or grandparents do. It includes me.

    One grandpa has 10 children, a mansion with 6+ bedrooms, 3 backyards, illegal statues he bought in Africa and Asia, like 8 dogs, turtles, 2 SUVs, no college degree, only the Bible. The other had 7, was a gynecologist, big pool, big house too, 5 bedrooms, a ranch where he had cattle. Both own multiple terrains they rent to businesses. Then I see my uncles and aunts barely having 2 children. The lucky ones had 4 tops, and decent houses, but not as big. Then I see my generation, my friends, cousins, strangers complaining about the Steam Machine’s price, RAM, housing, healthcare. They have no home, 0 children, maybe 1 if they got “lucky,” I hear about Americans sleeping in their cars, working two shifts, being on the verge of death, the “Kill Line” and so on. This reality is the default for the majority of the world right now, in different scopes, among young generations.

    After that, if they blame immigrants, people of color, women or whatever, you slap them with something like:

    “Immigrants, minorities, women, or LGBTQ people didn’t decide wages, housing costs, healthcare prices, or wars. People with capital did, and they love it when we fight sideways instead of up.”

    And bam. They also cannot dismantle that without looking like racist irrational imbeciles. Why exactly do you want to stop me?

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        Even if they block me, which has become rare, because they cannot help but reply to stuff that is roasting them too hard, their financial reality won’t change. Their narcissism and ego will be naked to the rest as well. Everything they said before or say after that won’t hit the same to everyone there. As I said, they are all about “Might makes right,” and being told that they can’t even beat a baby boomer is like a silver bullet to these mouthbreathers. Not to us, because we blame the top 1%, not our neighbors.

        I’ve already seen people jumping in to help me, chiming in and kicking those assholes further. I’ve seen it make my cousin, who I deemed a brother for so long, but became a crypto bro who supported MAGA, (and he’s a Mexican) squirm and lose his balls when I slapped him with it. I changed his mind so easily. He is super narcissistic, a nepo baby who thought would become a multi-millionaire playboy before his 30s, but dude’s a fucking loser, even after graduating as a doctor from the ITESM, he has no job, no children, no future, because he refuses to be paid 100k a month, he thinks he deserves more.

        Shit works. What you said is not happening.

        Why don’t you instead tell me or show me how do you do it? You make it sound like you found an even-more effective way to do this. What is it?

        • Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          they cannot help but reply to stuff that is roasting them too hard

          i can’t help but think your tinted lenses are only picking up the times you get a notification from the Big Addiction overlords and ignoring the majority of times you don’t get one. I’ve been to these comment sections before.

          What is it?

          Empathy. The vast majority can only accept voices between humans.