• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    the epstein class has successfully convinced the western world that non-violence is the only viable path forward.

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      3 days ago

      The cheering for Luigi has me wondering whether the embrace of non-violence actually runs that deep. I think people are scared, but I think those with a deep and abiding commitment to non-violence are a minority.

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        16 hours ago

        the cheering for luigi is a fascinating case for me and the liberal standard bearers in the united states like colbert, stewart & the dsa make it crystal clear that they disapprove and/or will kick you out for advocating it.

        somehow americans automatically associate political violence with dead and/or maimed people and mexico proves that basic ass property damage is enough to make your country’s political duopoly fall on their faces and that’s why the have shienbuam as president now. meanwhile we’re stuck with trump and whatever genocide-enabling candidate the democratic leadership lets us have.

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        Left wing violence is a means, not an ends; the reason you see so much egregious violence from fascists is that violence and its emotions are the ends for them, it’s what they set out to achieve. I am honestly terrified that we do not see substantive shifts before left wing violence breaks out, when violence is a necessary means it tends to be largely indiscriminate… just ask the Romanov children.

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        I agree, especially if they were put under enough pressure, and were part of a movement without said commitment to non-violence

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      No. Violence always was, still is, and most likely almost forever will be - an integral part of society.

      However, “The State” has the monopoly on it and on its legitimate use - one it lends out to its organs, giving them rules of conduct, standards and a uniform to make it feel legitimate.