It would be really nice if folks understood that authoritarianism will always ultimately oppress them, regardless of which ideology it serves.
And it would be doubly awesome if we could deconstruct those ideologies, take from each what works for the betterment of humanity, and build a way out of this ass backwards dystopia instead of shrieking “TankiE!” “FaCisT!!” “WoKE!” at each other.
But that might be a little too much to expect from a world full of hairless apes.
I rarely see criticism of actual misdeeds, mostly vague “USSR bad” and shit either made up or taken wildly out of context, both of which serve no purpose but to attack all of socialism’s principles.
This is the equivalent of starting every conversation involving Israel with “Do you condemn Hamas??!”; even if Hamas is imperfect, condemning them in the context of resisting Israel is condemning actual existing resistance to genocide.
I rarely see criticism of actual misdeeds, mostly vague “USSR bad” and shit either made up or taken wildly out of context, both of which serve no purpose but to attack all of socialism’s principles.
Do you view criticisms of the USA as criticisms of democracy’s principles?
If not, then you’re being irrational in how you think about one or both of the countries.
This is the equivalent of starting every conversation involving Israel with “Do you condemn Hamas??!”; even if Hamas is imperfect, condemning them in the context of resisting Israel is condemning actual existing resistance to genocide.
Most reasonable socialists agree that the USSR perverted a socialist movement to benefit a new ruling class and oppress people. As such, the USSR was a significant blow to socialism in more ways than one. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to criticize something that was more Bad than Good, even if it had some Good.
Again wrapping around to the USA, I would wager you have no qualms with criticizing the USA even if it does some good.
It would be really nice if folks understood that authoritarianism will always ultimately oppress them, regardless of which ideology it serves.
And it would be doubly awesome if we could deconstruct those ideologies, take from each what works for the betterment of humanity, and build a way out of this ass backwards dystopia instead of shrieking “TankiE!” “FaCisT!!” “WoKE!” at each other.
But that might be a little too much to expect from a world full of hairless apes.
Politics is far too much like team sports for a lot of people.
People on Lemmy act like criticizing the misdeeds of the USSR is an attack on all of socialism’s principles.
I rarely see criticism of actual misdeeds, mostly vague “USSR bad” and shit either made up or taken wildly out of context, both of which serve no purpose but to attack all of socialism’s principles.
This is the equivalent of starting every conversation involving Israel with “Do you condemn Hamas??!”; even if Hamas is imperfect, condemning them in the context of resisting Israel is condemning actual existing resistance to genocide.
Do you view criticisms of the USA as criticisms of democracy’s principles?
If not, then you’re being irrational in how you think about one or both of the countries.
Most reasonable socialists agree that the USSR perverted a socialist movement to benefit a new ruling class and oppress people. As such, the USSR was a significant blow to socialism in more ways than one. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to criticize something that was more Bad than Good, even if it had some Good.
Again wrapping around to the USA, I would wager you have no qualms with criticizing the USA even if it does some good.