The Hawaii Supreme Court handed down a unanimous opinion on Wednesday declaring that its state constitution grants individuals absolutely no right to keep and bear arms outside the context of military service. Its decision rejected the U.S. Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Second Amendment, refusing to interpolate SCOTUS’ shoddy historical analysis into Hawaii law. Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern discussed the ruling on this week’s Slate Plus segment of Amicus; their conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    The modern use of “regulated” isn’t the same as it was then.

    Regulation had to do with training and equipment. The idea was that militias, as opposed to a standing (“Regular”) army, weren’t always trained and armed when they were called to arms. The idea of a “well-regulated militia” was for civilians to already have weapons and understand their use if they were needed.

    So a requirement for a well-regulated militia is for civilians to have the right to own and use weapons.

    Is it antiquated? Maybe. But saying that “well-regulated” militia was meant to limit access to firearms is an argument based on either ignorance or dishonesty.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Well not quite. Well regulated did also include training and they did not consider the average person to be well trained enough to qualify for the phrase.

      • xenspidey@lemmy.zip
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        9 months ago

        False, George Mason quote “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.” George Mason wrote a draft of what became the second amendment