I just got around to reading the communist manifesto and was surprised by the fact that it doesn’t actually advocate for getting rid of money. It includes steps like having a very progressive tax, abolishing inheritance, and nationalizing banks but those all presume that there will still be money.
It then says that it will take multiple generations under these conditions for the idea of money to disappear and it will happen naturally.
I was also surprised to see that there’s a similar argument for property. That it advocates for seizing private property (which has a particular definition in the book) but says other forms of property can be kept around and will only be abolished naturally in a few generations.
Awesome, why did you decide to read it?
Honestly it was in a little free library box and I figured I sympathized in theory but I had never actually read the book. The actual manifesto is super super super short. More than half the book was prefaces from various authors (including Marx and engels) and it was still one of the shortest books I’ve read this year.
A lot of the “communist canon” is made up of 50 - 70 page long pamphlets. Basically long enough to read in one or two sitting, and then discuss with other workers since reading circles were really popular during the early communist movement.
Glad you found it! Makes me wanna carry some copies around with me to put into little libraries!
A few pamphlets I’d recommend would be Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, which is about Historical Materialism, Wage Labor and Capital which is a brief primer on Marxist economics, and The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon which is about the ascention of Louis Napoleon in France and incidentally contains about half of Marx’s most famous quotes. It also describes conditions where the liberal democracy that was won decades earlier started backsliding into authoritarianism and semi-feudal social relations, and echoes many of our current conditions.
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It’s Facebook/Meta.
Is OP expecting doctors there?Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about “taxing the rich.”
That’s a purely liberal pretend-solution.
you’re getting downvoted because there’s too many stupid people here who think the orphan crushing machine is acceptable so long as the government gets a cut and the rich get a chance to hide their wealth in offshore accounts.
Liberal propagandists love this whole “tax the rich” horseshit because they, like the billionaire parasites they truly represent, know perfectly well that taxing them a slight bit more (which would be a best case scenario) poses absolutely zero threat to their private ownership over the means of production.
You don’t beat billionaire parasites through taxation - you beat them through public infrastructure.
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I use the term “public infrastructure” and gallows is the first thing that pops into your mind?
Geez.
So you think we should go back to crushing the orphans by hand then? I suppose you’ll volunteer? Have you ever actually seen one of them crushed? All the squirming? The screams?
What the hell is wrong with you?
Oh really? Do tell, what does a true Scotsman actually want?
Right now? Really good hash browns and to share her toothbrush with a cute NB who’s on the wrong continent.
what they mean, mr. snarkmaster 9000, is that there should not be any rich
Do tell, liberal - is it your own right-wing ideology you do not understand? Or is it that you understand neither your own ideology or anything that can be called leftist with a straight face?
Or is it a question of both?
Understanding is subversive. Not allowed. One must only identify and dunk upon.
right, it would just end up in the hands of weapon manufacturers anyway, doesn’t matter how much we tax anyone, the simple fact is it wont make it to anyone who needs it
They are asking the billionaires to tax themselves
You can tell this is a leftist community because 1/4 of the time there’s someone in the comments calling half of leftist ideologies libs, based solely on the fact that they kinda don’t like them.
whether or not they are leftist, billionaires being OK so long as the government gets a cut is a liberal position. if you don’t want to be called a duck, you shouldn’t go around quacking and wearing feathers like one.
Can you quote the part where anybody here said billionaires are ok?
the part where they said tax the rich. there should be no rich. it isn’t that complicated of a concept, I’m sure you can get it if you really focus.
The first half of that comment is actually great and answers the question. 👍
Since when does “half of leftist ideologies” fetishise private ownership over the means of production?
I know it is naughty, but it is the only way I can get off these days.
This is the same level of “half” as the “nobody” in the comment I replied to, hope this helps
That’s not the tell. The tell is in the replies to that person. Someone will read their comment, somehow completely ignore the central point being raised, project their own complete lack of seriousness onto them, then mug at the crowd for approval.
The actual tell is that we are all condescending
Yall don’t want to abolish money?
The anarchists in Spain did that about a 100 years ago.
Orwell wrote a book about fighting in the war with them. The actual people who did it can be watched in color on youtube. Its quite good / entertaining watching them explain how they were against all vices but found themselves in the position of giving out free cigarettes and alcohol.
Dont be so lazy or small minded.
Guys, can we go easy on the lib-jacketing please?
What a curiously liberal thing to say.
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By abolishing money you’re effectively instituting a 100% wealth tax on the rich.
