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  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    263·
    9 hours ago

    All of Trump’s key policies received majority support except for renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, with deportation of illegal immigrants who have committed crimes (81%), eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditures (76%), and closing the border (76%) as the top three most supported policies.

    Surely the proletariat will express their disgust with fascism any day now, we just had to Teach The Dems™ first. Any day now.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 hours ago

      Did they ask about “siding with Russia over Ukraine”, or “Making peace in Ukraine in three weeks”? Yes framing matters, and obviously people support policies that are framed like “eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditure “. Wonder how that position is affected if you add the subclause “by kids that come straight out of high school “.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        1·
        3 hours ago

        72% of voters say they want Ukraine to negotiate a settlement with Russia instead of winning the war. 60% of voters favor Trump announcing direct U.S.-Russia negotiations (Democrats: 40%; Republicans: 85%; Independents: 53%).

        59% of voters oppose the Trump administration leaving Ukraine’s leaders out of negotiations with Russia. 55% of voters oppose the exclusion of European leaders.

        57% of voters oppose the Trump administration forcing Ukraine to make territorial concessions to end the war, and 66% of voters say Ukraine should receive security guarantees from the U.S. if it were to make concessions.

        61% of voters say security guarantees should be contingent on Ukraine sharing revenue from rare earth elements to pay back U.S. military support.

        63% of voters believe Russia will continue to advance onto other countries if it successfully claims Ukrainian territory.

    • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Ah, I see what the article got wrong now. They think he actually wants to implement those policies instead of just being evil for no reason and using those as a guise.

    • grumps@lemmy.i.secretponi.esEnglish
      30·
      9 hours ago

      Based on the sample, this seems like a disingenuous poll.

      • We always deported felons. Yet, P01135809’s deportation rate is actually lower than Biden’s.

      • We always fought to eliminate fraud and waste. The GOP has invited felons convicted of fraud into the government.

      • The border isn’t closed and hasn’t been.

      If you’re asking these sorts of questions it feels more like push polling propaganda than an honest assessment of feelings.

      • Billiam@lemmy.world
        6·
        7 hours ago

        It is a bullshit poll.

        eliminating fraud and waste in government expenditures

        If you ask that question, without being extremely specific as to how “fraud” and “waste” are defined, you’re going to get mass agreement. Nobody wants their tax dollars misused. But a Dem might say giving subsidies to the oil industry is fraud and waste, while a Republican might say any money spent on non-billionaires is fraud and waste.

      • tree_frog@lemm.eeEnglish
        6·
        7 hours ago

        It’s a disengenuous poll imo

        Penn was a chief strategist and pollster in the Hillary Clinton 2008 presidential campaign. Penn later became a defender of Donald Trump, opposing his impeachment, consulting on his 2020 presidential campaign, and alleging a “deep state” conspiracy against him.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        51·
        9 hours ago

        It doesn’t matter that we’ve always fought to eliminate fraud and waste and that the GOP is full of frauds. They support Dear Leader ‘eliminating’ fraud and waste.

        Facts don’t matter, man.

        • grumps@lemmy.i.secretponi.esEnglish
          8·
          8 hours ago

          I guess that’s my point. If the poll is not based on anything other than bullshit, what’s the point of giving it any consideration?

          We may as well be discussing a poll on everyone’s favorite Teletubby.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            1·
            8 hours ago

            I guess that’s my point. If the poll is not based on anything other than bullshit, what’s the point of giving it any consideration?

            Because people approve of bullshit. Because people vote based on bullshit. Because people form their worldviews on bullshit.

    • Willy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      8 hours ago

      there’s is a lot of nuances with those top three. they sound pretty good as an idea but I’m against trumps definition and actions on each of those items

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      8 hours ago

      I support deporting undocumented immigrants who commit a crime… for certain definitions of crime. I am not aware of anyone in my personal circle who would say that someone who bypassed asylum seeking to enter the country undocumented and then raped someone should be allowed to stay… the issue is that the administration considers all undocumented immigrants to be equally worthy of deportation while disallowing reasonable legal paths to immigrate.

      Due to the sematic bad faith tools in place it’s extremely difficult to actually gauge legitimate opinion since that wording evokes a particular ideation in conservatives and the administration exploits that mismatch to commit actions that most Americans find objectionable.

      • Malfeasant@lemm.ee
        1·
        7 hours ago

        So someone enters the country illegally, commits a crime, you want to just send them back? To do it all again? Rather than, you know, put them in jail for the crime?