Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I’m gonna go with a car.
I disagree cycling in winter is nice. Just get some warm clothes and good tyres. A car is also really expensive to own in the city. Why pay for a car and parking when the alternative is almost free and arguably more fun.
It was minus seventeen degrees celsius when I got up yesterday. In the time it would take me to bicycle to work on clear paths/roads - assuming no accidents - I would have frostbite on all of my face unless I was also wearing a full-face helmet.
You should check out Oulu in Finland where kids bike to school in cold weather. Not a problem apparently. If that is too far fetched, you should visit Bozeman MT where people bike commute in the winter quite often.
I’m sorry but your going to need to backup the claim with actual evidence of the average tempreture in Ousa, Finland as well as the average time it takes for kids to get to school there because your claim means nothing because Ousa, Finland could be less cold on average then the person you’re replying too
Humans can be fine in cold weather for a certain amount of time and tempreture but it gets worser the colder it gets
And your comment also ignores people who are less physically able and people who are more vulnerable to the cold due to health conditions
If a full-face helmet works why not use one? You can also just skip the extremely cold days and use public transport instead. It doesn’t have to be an all or nothing decision.
Because instead of risking bodily injury I can be there in 10 minutes? Public transport in my town is a joke. I have to walk 5 minutes to the nearest bus stop, take it to the central station which is an hour, then another hour bus to work.
Could probably rock a balaclava in those temperatures. I bought one in anticipation of winter riding, but the coldest I’ve ridden this year is -11 C and it wasn’t quite necessary yet at that point, but I was debating trying it out.
Climate change is basically killing most of the cold days we have where I live so this is a problem I’m long-term apparently not going to have to deal with. Instead I will have to deal with the way worse type of weather - wet weather.
Dude where I live climate change is making it snow less but get extremely cold (-40c/-40F) multiple times a season thanks to the destabilizing polar vortex. It’s really interesting seeing how different places are impacted by climate change
I suppose in the context of biking that makes it more viable though since you can always dress more appropriately for the weather but you can’t out dress 12" of snow in front of your tires
This ignores the fact that some people can’t be out as long as others due to being less physically able or having a health condition that makes them more vulnerable to the cold
This is why there still needs to be access to cars
Rain is no problem, just get a proper jacket and rain pants. They’ll last you years.
Ice can be a problem, but you can get studded tires if you’re really regularly riding on ice.
Severe cold? I’ve biked in -20 weather, and with proper gear it’s not bad. You’re working hard and you heat up pretty quickly. The tricky things are your fingers and toes. Your fingers need enough freedom to operate the brakes and so on, so you can’t just use huge and bulky gloves. If you’re using clip-in pedals, your choice of footwear is a bit limited.
The real issue with winter biking isn’t the cold or the ice, it’s the lack of proper cycling infrastructure. Biking on a road next to a bus is hard enough in summer. In winter where there’s uncleared snow, slush and ice, it sucks. In places with proper winter cycling infrastructure it’s no problem.
Imagine how hard it would be to drive a car in winter if cities didn’t send out snowplows to clear the roads. That’s what it’s like for cyclists now in most (but not all) places.
If the weather is bad enough, I will take transit instead, but cycling down to -10 C is doable without any problems.
I will be far less inclined to bike if it’s raining, that I do hate with a passion. Of course, I could just work from home in that scenario as well, if I don’t feel like taking transit
Probably because the uncensored comment isn’t being posted fromlemmy.ml, unlike the first post. Posting and viewing from the instance in question will probably censor every occurrence.
Basically, if you’re from lemmy.ml, everything is censored looking from the inside out. If you’re on another instance looking from the outside into lemmy.ml, you’ll only see posts FROM it censored.
If it’s me on the bike, know that I’m pitying you. -6°C is nothing. I drove a lot of miles as a delivery driver, and saw a lot of faces behind windshields in that time. Very few happy faces. Driving makes people miserable.
If the cities are built for it, cycling doesn’t become something where you’re doing it for extended periods or distances. Neighborhoods that are setup for bikes means everything is local area, or mostly.
Rain, ice and severe cold are a removed. I like bicycles, but driving to work in a heated car looking at that poor cyclist riding somewhere at 6 in the morning at -6°C, sorry, no, I’m gonna go with a car.
Bro, it might be time to leave .ml lol
We are all a removed on this blessed day
I disagree cycling in winter is nice. Just get some warm clothes and good tyres. A car is also really expensive to own in the city. Why pay for a car and parking when the alternative is almost free and arguably more fun.
Bike in sub zero weather with snow and ice everywhere, that’s far from nice for me.
It was minus seventeen degrees celsius when I got up yesterday. In the time it would take me to bicycle to work on clear paths/roads - assuming no accidents - I would have frostbite on all of my face unless I was also wearing a full-face helmet.
You should check out Oulu in Finland where kids bike to school in cold weather. Not a problem apparently. If that is too far fetched, you should visit Bozeman MT where people bike commute in the winter quite often.
I’m sorry but your going to need to backup the claim with actual evidence of the average tempreture in Ousa, Finland as well as the average time it takes for kids to get to school there because your claim means nothing because Ousa, Finland could be less cold on average then the person you’re replying too
Humans can be fine in cold weather for a certain amount of time and tempreture but it gets worser the colder it gets
And your comment also ignores people who are less physically able and people who are more vulnerable to the cold due to health conditions
Is this s troll message? It has to be, right?
Not a troll message, don’t know why you interpreted it that way
If a full-face helmet works why not use one? You can also just skip the extremely cold days and use public transport instead. It doesn’t have to be an all or nothing decision.
Because instead of risking bodily injury I can be there in 10 minutes? Public transport in my town is a joke. I have to walk 5 minutes to the nearest bus stop, take it to the central station which is an hour, then another hour bus to work.
Could probably rock a balaclava in those temperatures. I bought one in anticipation of winter riding, but the coldest I’ve ridden this year is -11 C and it wasn’t quite necessary yet at that point, but I was debating trying it out.
Climate change is basically killing most of the cold days we have where I live so this is a problem I’m long-term apparently not going to have to deal with. Instead I will have to deal with the way worse type of weather - wet weather.
Dude where I live climate change is making it snow less but get extremely cold (-40c/-40F) multiple times a season thanks to the destabilizing polar vortex. It’s really interesting seeing how different places are impacted by climate change
I suppose in the context of biking that makes it more viable though since you can always dress more appropriately for the weather but you can’t out dress 12" of snow in front of your tires
This ignores the fact that some people can’t be out as long as others due to being less physically able or having a health condition that makes them more vulnerable to the cold
This is why there still needs to be access to cars
Just wrap a scarf around your face and you will not be cold. Proper clothes is all you need to not even be uncomfortable.
Riding in snow is also not an issue if you regularly bike. A good tire and practice and you will not fall.
I’m less likely to sweat profusely in winter
Rain is no problem, just get a proper jacket and rain pants. They’ll last you years.
Ice can be a problem, but you can get studded tires if you’re really regularly riding on ice.
Severe cold? I’ve biked in -20 weather, and with proper gear it’s not bad. You’re working hard and you heat up pretty quickly. The tricky things are your fingers and toes. Your fingers need enough freedom to operate the brakes and so on, so you can’t just use huge and bulky gloves. If you’re using clip-in pedals, your choice of footwear is a bit limited.
The real issue with winter biking isn’t the cold or the ice, it’s the lack of proper cycling infrastructure. Biking on a road next to a bus is hard enough in summer. In winter where there’s uncleared snow, slush and ice, it sucks. In places with proper winter cycling infrastructure it’s no problem.
Imagine how hard it would be to drive a car in winter if cities didn’t send out snowplows to clear the roads. That’s what it’s like for cyclists now in most (but not all) places.
If the weather is bad enough, I will take transit instead, but cycling down to -10 C is doable without any problems.
I will be far less inclined to bike if it’s raining, that I do hate with a passion. Of course, I could just work from home in that scenario as well, if I don’t feel like taking transit
Was the removed word bitch (female dog) by any chance I wonder?
Because lemmy.ml is run by a bunch of pearl-clutchers that think profanity is a tool of the capitalist oppressors.
Why did you ask if the removed word is removed?
Looks like they shadow-remove the word
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“Was the removed word hunter2 (female dog) by any chance I wonder?”
For some reason your comment appears uncensored to me, but the top commenter’s is censored.
Probably because the uncensored comment isn’t being posted from lemmy.ml, unlike the first post. Posting and viewing from the instance in question will probably censor every occurrence.
all of this is wild and i have no idea what’s real anymore
Basically, if you’re from lemmy.ml, everything is censored looking from the inside out. If you’re on another instance looking from the outside into lemmy.ml, you’ll only see posts FROM it censored.
It was a little joke.
If it’s me on the bike, know that I’m pitying you. -6°C is nothing. I drove a lot of miles as a delivery driver, and saw a lot of faces behind windshields in that time. Very few happy faces. Driving makes people miserable.
If the cities are built for it, cycling doesn’t become something where you’re doing it for extended periods or distances. Neighborhoods that are setup for bikes means everything is local area, or mostly.
Like my mom used to say: are you made of sugar?
Ice and snow are difficult. But I don’t give a shit about the rest. It’s still way more fun than sitting in traffic.