• ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I don’t know about secession. But let’s at least stop pumping all that money back to the federal government and keep it for ourselves (or maybe just share some of it with Oregon and Washington State). That would be a really fucking powerful message.

      Let’s see how those whiney anti-Californian red welfare states cope without us subsidizing their toxic bullshit.

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        15 hours ago

        Nah, bruh, I’m ready to be done, I’m signing that petition to get it put on the ballot. Read the room, any part of the federal government that doesn’t explicitly harm people is imploding. Fuck ICE, fuck Nazis, I’m out, and California should be too.

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          I mean, it’s what Russia wants. A fractured, divided US, but at this point, what do we seriously have to lose?

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            4 hours ago

            Russia already got what it wants in DJT. The republic is dead, and the largest contributor to NATO is pulling out. It’s time to take care of ourselves.

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      11 hours ago

      Can we join Canada and Mexico and form our own version of the E.U.? We’ll want allies given a hostile power will be right on our doorstep and I don’t want them invading us (I guess we can also join NATO since the divided states won’t stay in it).

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        Who know what form it would ultimately take? I’ve seen proposals of forming a pacific coast nation, and that seems pretty cool. We’d definitely have trading partners. We’d need to be on good terms with our neighbors, since we share a lot of water with them.

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    16 hours ago

    We may not like the enemies within but that’s no excuse to help the enemies outside. I like @ThePowerOfGeek suggestion better, just make a ballot initiative to ban or withhold federal taxes in Cali.