2 pizzas, a small order of breadsticks, and wanted to splurge and get cinnamon sticks.
Pizzas are a “Buy one get one deal!” at 13 bucks a pizza. Figured what the hell, I’ll splurge on desert then with the deal. Get to checkout… hold on a minute… 50 dollars for pizza?! Wait a minute 80 dollars after fees and taxes?!
Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash. I’m not spending 80 dollars on freaking pizza. I’ll just go pick it up and spend a quarter of that price.
At least I would have saved the $3 dollar delivery fee. Phew. Thanks DoorDash.
I don’t understand how all of these delivery services are so popular when everyone is saying how high the cost of living is. People have money to blow on delivery fees?
Just fools and their money being parted.
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I’m missing something. If the two pizzas were 13, then the sticks + desert were 40? Then tax and service fee on top (40% lol)
Me seeing the pic: Oh, doordash just dropped the delivery fee…wait, $50??? What the fuck is he ordering in one meal that I could get a weeks worth of groceries???
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Oh, good. For a second I thought he was an idiot…
I said…2 days before the superbowl…knowing what I’m about to spend…
You can get a weeks worth of groceries for 80 bucks? Doubt (x).
Cooking for yourself and not eating out ever, and my bill from Aldi rarely is above $50, just buy seasoning as you go. I make a week’s worth of food on one day a week, freeze most of it, and then just reheat it in a microwave.
Yup. I’d make a tray of lasagna, in my bachelor days, and it would last me about 4 days. Of course I’d be really tired of lasagna by then lol
You can get a weeks worth of calories plus a multivitamin for $80
Where can’t you?
The USA. What are you buying 20lb bag of rice and 20lbs of beens?
With 80€, I get around 2 weeks of groceries in Germany for 1 person… Almost free highest quality tap water, no breakfast, bread with something on it for lunch, something for dinner that results in leftovers for 1-2 days…
My sister uses doordash and there’s always something wrong. Yet she insists on trying again and again, and I can’t understand why.
I have never used them or Uber or others like this, and refuse to do so. They exploit their workers, they charge exorbitant fees, and when something’s wrong, it’s nobody’s fault.
If I want food, I go get it myself. I’m my own delivery boy! And contrary to a lot of people delivering food, I will not park on a sidewalk or in a bike lane.
I have a friend who hates grocery shopping, so they get their food delivered, but then constantly complains about nonsensical substitutions. They’re not wrong that the substitutions don’t make sense, but there’s a really easy way to ensure you get exactly what you want…
The one thing I will say positively about DoorDash is that when something is wrong with the order, it is really easy to report it and receive fair credit in the app instantly.
I’ve been trying to order directly more often, to avoid fees and tips, and if something is wrong it’s almost always a hassle to get any kind of credit without going back to the store in person. I barely want to go in the first place, so having to go back just to get $3 doesn’t really make sense.
That’s their model, they make everything easy and take the loss. But after everyone started using them, they can do whatever they want.
I remember 10 years ago a collegue is telling me that that Amazon was great. You order something, it arrives and if there is an issue with the order, you can order a replacement by yourself and it will arrive before even you returned the first item. Few weeks ago I had an issue with an order and you need to contact the customer service for a solution. Chat was not working, you can request a call back but it wasn’t working either, they give you a number to call but it isn’t working. 4 years ago it was much easier to contact them.
Stop using it. It’s that simple.
Gig economy work is horrible for the workers, and incredibly exploitative. The workers frequently make less than minimum wage.
I refuse to order from any restaurant that doesn’t do their own delivery. If enough other people do the same, these places will curl up and die very quickly.
I don’t disagree, but jobs are already hard to come by, pushing people out of the only jobs they can find is a rough solution
The jobs won’t disappear. They’ll just change. The need is obviously there.
Here in Colorado a bunch of drivers just formed a employee owned co-op, both to give the middle finger to Uber and Lyft, and so the drivers can actually earn a living. We need more of that.
what’s the coop called?
This is the way. This gig worker industry is in need of disruption. It’s ultimately a matchmaking service. There is no other broker than can charge 100% markup.
Professional job placement company, realtors, etc do more for a much smaller percentage.
well that sounds like unemployment insurance with more steps. rather than people buying stuff they don’t need so that it can be delivered to keep someone in a job, and paying the apps the fees, remove the middleman.
My favorite Pizza place in Germany has their own delivery cars. It might take some time to arrive, but you pay 30€ for 2 large Pizzas + 4€ for the delivery if your are located in the same city… 34€ total… Add a 2€ tip (tips are usually an extra and not their main income in Germany) and enjoy the Pizza… Easy…
My favourite Pizza place here in Copenhagen also went back to having their own delivery car and bike, to get rid of Wolt (biggest delivery service here). Delivery price and time has improved dramatically.
Why did we sacrifice all these services go stupid apps to begin with?
Probably because the only way of ordering was (and sometimes is) via telephone. Ordering via app or website was rare before the delivery platforms came and created a monopoly…
Your driver would have been paid a total of
$6.50$5.00 on that order.Thank you for canceling.
Part of that fee is the “Seattle drivers fee”, which is supposed to go to the drivers, but they’ve been very shady about that, and the tipping algorithm was not adjusted at all when they rolled it out. They were also really shitty at the time blaming greedy drivers and the mean old city for forcing them to pay their drivers… and that’s when I stopped using them for good.
Yeah, every time I think about getting Doordash, they sucker me in with promises of $1 delivery fees, etc. Then I take the time to find out what I want, put it in my cart, get excited, and…then I see the final price.
That’s when I close out of my browser and go preheat my oven so that I can put in a frozen pizza.
We created a rule, if you want to eat out, you have to be willing to get up and go get it. If you’re not willing to do that, you obviously don’t want it that badly and you can make something at home or do something else. It’s saved me probably thousands of dollars now. However DD is great at showing me what restaurants are around me, I just have to weed out the fake ones. Google has gotten worse and worse about showing me the small places around me.
That’s a great tip for finding new restaurants! I get to waste the middleman’s resources, too! Win win.
It’s even better when you realize they have a ton of metrics, and they are you clicking around to only end up not buying anything. I like to add stuff to my cart, only to walk away so they see that I saw the price and then left
Ordered CFA with a friend a few weeks ago, an hour and a half later and it still hadn’t arrived. My friend canceled their order and we drove out to CFA and ordered it in person, it was less than $30 USD. That’s when they mentioned that the new order was less than half of what they were charged on DoorDash.
It blew my mind, they said it was close to $80 for two large chicken nuggets (whatever count that is) with two large fries, an OJ and a large fountain drink. The place was literally under 10 minutes away, they charged more than 2.5x for it, and it hadn’t even arrived in an hour and a half. DoorDash is terrible.
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What is standing in the way of an open alternative to these services? Both customers and workers getting a terrible deal, you’d think anyone would switch to something else at the first opportunity
Someone would need to host and manage that thing, in the case of dispute. For the gig worker, they would need someone to know that these alternatives exists, and that require marketing and marketing cost money.
But i bet someone can make a cooperative of this service and only run locally, and restaurant and delivery worker can both help promote their alternative.
At least some local alternatives sort of like that do exist, eg. https://www.noshdelivery.co/about_us. But yeah, there is the issue of managing it and overhead since I guess probably part of what they do is vetting and dispute resolution, so it might be hard for it to be more decentralized. Maybe eventual convergence on shared tools and protocols though?
Turns out hiring a cab for your pizza is expensive, who would have thought. Personally when ordering out, I always choose pickup, and fortunately can bike to most places to pick it up. If the weather is too shitty to bike, why would I want to put a delivery driver in those conditions.
The alternative isn’t an open platform, but maybe prioritizing 10 minute city in urban environments where you don’t need a car to get/deliver everything you need
Yeah, doordash can gdiaf. Local burger joint only does delivery through doordash, but adds 20% on top of the base price to cover the fees doordash change them (fair enough), then doordash adds the delivery fee they charge me on top of that as well. They double dip on fees by changing both the restaurant and the customer, what should be a fairly affordable lunch when I don’t have time to make something or go out and get it myself would end up being stupid expensive
These apps will die slowly until the companies can switch to self driving electric cars.
Once they become common/cheap enough that a pizza place can afford one or two self driving cars doing delivery the prices on these things will absolutely crash.
For pizza, I wouldn’t be surprised if it went a step further and the pizza was made and cooked by a robot inside the vehicle while it drives around. Only needing to go restock and recharge every few hours.
Not needing a retail location or almost any staff would make the whole thing super cheap to operate.
In the meantime fuck all food delivery.
The money you’re paying DoorDash isn’t going to the drivers, so I don’t know how driverless cars will reduce the costs. Having driven for DoorDash off and on over the past couple years, they typically only pay $2 per delivery, plus whatever tip the customer gives. I’ve read they additionally charge the restaurants around a 30% commission on all orders, which is why the prices are so much higher than in the restaurant; the restaurants raise the prices so that they still get roughly the same money after the commission is deducted.
I’m not really sure where all that money goes with DoorDash. They clearly try to keep support costs as low as possible. I’m guessing they lose a lot to refunds, legitimate or not. But I still don’t understand how the prices can be so high yet they always seem tight on cash.
Driverless cars will eliminate Grubhub, DoorDash, etc, because it will be cheaper for most restaurants to have their own delivery vehicles again, and you’ll probably see co-op services for smaller places.
Restaurants delivering their own food is not a foreign concept - it’s how all food delivery was done in the ‘old days’. They will jump on the chance to eliminate these gig commissions.
Its surely not the millions in management salary each month…
I wished I could live in this fairy tale world where a driverless car won’t be vandalized/stripped for parts
Like you’d be paying 30 bucks to basically have an unsupervised car show up at your location that’s totally not gonna result in a lot of trouble and cost a shit ton
You say unsupervised, but they have as many cameras and sensors on them than your average military drone at this point. They can (and will) transmit this data live if they detect negative interactions.
It’s not like people don’t have unsupervised access to cars without people in them right now. People park and leave their cars alone all the time.
Who’s gonna vandalize it when everybody biological is confined to their home for safety? Not like any of the interhome bots could ever escape their programming without the police bots disabling them immediately.
Nah, cos the way the self driving thing will be structured will make it pretty much impossible to actually buy one - they’ll be crazy expensive to buy outright, but you can absolutely lease one - oh but if you are using it for commercial purposes it’s more expensive cos… insurance or something, oh and don’t forget the per-km fees, and the servicing fee, and the battery wear fee, and …
Self driving car companies benefit from more total units on the road compared to limiting service and charging more. It will only take one of the companies selling outright to customers for the entire industry to be forced to drop prices.
I don’t know your personal situation, but people need to learn to cook. Even a meal kit with 3 meals six plates all delivered to your door can cost less than that one order for two pizzas. Your local grocery has pre made pizza dough, sauce, and cheese, and can be cooked in less time than it takes to wait for delivery.
Hahaha. Just to really make my point: Safeway was offering premade medium sized pizzas for $4. You’re getting scammed.
What? Of course I can cook. It’s Friday and I didn’t feel like it. You’ve never said “Oh man, work was hell, I’m just going to order something and relax tonight”?
I meal prep for every day and cook every day. You don’t need to act superior to people because they wanted to order a pizza.
You complain, but still pay for it. That only encourages the gouging. The best way to make it stop is not patronizing food delivery services. Use any means necessary. If your tired, I totally get it, but paying them means you condone the behavior of price gouging and hidden fees.
I’m literally headed to the store now to make pizza. If you were local, I’d bring you a slice.
Fellas, is it a crime to not want to do something from time to time?
I… didn’t pay for it? I called the shop and went to pick it up. Saved 50 bucks on it. You’re making a lot of assumptions about me.
Did you even bother reading the text?
Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash.
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OP’s situation aside, that doesn’t even fit your generalization here, many pizza places fired their delivery drivers and use these services without really informing you. I recently ordered from Pizza Hut and didn’t know my pizza was coming via these services until they text me that they were arriving. Naturally I only got one of the pizzas I ordered and the other was one that someone else ordered. Someone with terrible taste who thinks jalapeño and pineapple are appropriate ingredients for a pizza.
Learn to cook.
Don’t judge ppl for not cooking. It takes time. It takes effort. It takes more than the attention span of a squirrel. A lot of people just can’t any more. Depressed people, old people, exhausted people, busy people. Some flats don’t even come with kitchens and some people are forced to move somewhere. It also, doesn’t stop with the cooking, you have to clean up afterwards as well. Cooking can be fun, but it can also be chore.
I mean, if you want pizza that’s even shittier than chain deliveries, sure, you can do that.
Let’s be real. A home oven and premade dough might be cheaper, but it ain’t good pizza.
You can get a pizza stone (or steel), or do a cast iron pizza and end up fine, that’s for sure. But if you’re using that premade dough, even Caesar’s is going to be as good. That’s not mentioning that the sauces available in jars aren’t all created equal at all, or that it’s a dice roll if the cheese is okay or not.
Even dominos and pizza hut are better than a cheap home made pie. You want a good home made pizza, you’re spending roughly the same, but now you have to learn how to hey it right. The learning curve isn’t horrible or anything, but it’s there.
Most people that want a pizza want something decent, or they’d just throw in a digiorno’s or whatever. Mind you, calling most chain pizza decent is a stretch of the term, but that’s another issue entirely since a solid pizzeria isn’t exactly a guarantee outside of cities
Just saying, this was made with premade dough in a residential oven. It was fantastic and cost about $7 total.
Even dominos
Hey let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. I’ll give you Pizza Hut, but fuck Dominoes and their nasty excuse for pizza.
