• TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works
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    honestly this election cycle has been a “where the fuck are your morals” to me.
    My state lost both abortion AND weed bills, not to mention we got a Republican in power on both state and country levels now.

    Like I ADORE the ideals of the declaration of Independence ie “don’t tread on me”. Like the ideas of free speech, personal freedoms, and having the right (and duty) to fight for it is amazing.
    But now all the people saying ‘don’t tread on me’ are voting to restrict freedom. It’s crazy how they will wear a shirt that says “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction” then turn around and say trans people should be deported.

    Like am I the insane one here?? pornhub is being banned and they don’t have an issue with it being literal censorship?? LITERALLY HOW ARE THEY THIS BLIND???

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    Yes, but in order to cultivate a society in which such politics are feasible and can thrive, some of the old ultraviolence is needed

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      Nah, it’s just wanted by the people who don’t want to wait for better methods to work.

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        Wait for better methods to work? How much more do you need to see before you understand that things are getting worse over time? How many environmental scientists need to explain yet again that the world is going to be inhospitable if we don’t make a massive change - while virtually all major sources of pollution are increasing year over year?

        This isn’t the time to sit around and wait for things to inexplicably start getting better, it’s the time to fight for the slim chance that we can turn things around before it’s too late. And that fight is a literal one - there is no way to get those in power to stop exploiting our society and our world for profits than to physically stop them by whatever means we can.

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        Yeah, you really think most of us have the time to wait around? What with the changing global environment and all that entails? This must be the most asinine take I have heard in a while, and I think you really should sit down and have a serious think about these issues and maybe return to the conversation when you have the capability and capacity of forming a real, coherent argument. Unless you really enjoy the taste of boot, in which case you can just stay away.

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          Well no shit it’s not just about sitting on your ass waiting for other people to do things for you. But any effective method will take time, and most major results won’t happen within our lifetime.

          Violence is a nice way to feel better about your circumstances, but it has about as much effect as inaction, especially in the current climate. Despite what so many proponents of violent action keep telling you, there’s a ton of non-violent action one can take… it just won’t have immediate effect. It also requires that you work with others who don’t see exactly as you do. Which is a major problem for a lot of people these days.

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        Nah, it’s just wanted by the people who don’t want to wait for better methods to work. have the privilege to wait

        FTFY, you overly privileged and status quo worshipping white moderate.

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          Movements thrive on a diversity of tactics. Let’s keep our eyes on the ball, in many different ways, rather than criticize those who don’t agree with us in the “right way”

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          No action you take will have immediate effect. Violence is just a balm you use to deal with that. Unfortunately, it has the effect of aligning people against you, which tends to make it take even longer.

          But tell yourself whatever you want about how your violence will make effective change. At least you’ll feel like you’ve done something as the world continues to burn around you.

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    To be completely honest I don’t understand how anyone can think things are going to get better. It’s so alien a thought to me, I don’t think I can imagine any possible way for conditions to improve

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      By having hope, human mind can come up with better and better reasons to be hopeful about. It’s self-fulfilling prophecy.

      Almost exactly a year ago I have lost all hope. I was a husk of human being, Rotting away in my mothers attic. If not for freezing temperatures I would be homeless. I didn’t have any money for food.

      By slowly changing my social media to be more hopeful and less depressing. (Without toxic positivity that denies all the bad things that are) My thought patters started chnging. By working on my emotional health I started appreciating small things in life. I have begun to have small infrequent moments: “This is what I live for.” Things like that sterted boostingveach other and I improved my life by a mile.

      It took me years of hard work to be here, with eyes full of hope and a possibility of bright future ahead.

      Hope is an absurd thing. The belief that things will work out is neccesery to begin action and give your 100%. The belief that there is significant chance of failure will lead to failure; because why extend the effort if it all will be in vain.

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      I don’t think things are going to get better… in a vacuum. I want things to get better, and I want to work towards making things better… but, as you say, it’s hard to imagine that when so many people just give in to hopelessness and despair.

      Hope is not a cure-all, it won’t fix things all by itself… but it gives us reason to not to give up. You don’t have to expect things to magically get better… but you can still work towards that goal, because otherwise it’s pretty much guaranteed to turn out for the worst. And who really wants that?