• BakedBeanEnjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    6 months ago

    Fuck, now I gotta buy cannabis from someone name April for it to be legal?

    My dealers name is fucking Gus Gutenburg. How many people are even named April in Germany? Probably not a lot. I hate our parliament.

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      6 months ago

      There’s a reason a certain green teenage pizza loving group made friends with her

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      6 months ago

      No I think it’s the month of April. So as long as it was cultivated and purchased during the month of April you’re okay. Just gotta stock up for the year.

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    6 months ago

    “Chronic cannabis use makes you stupid, to put it bluntly, and can also cause psychosis,” Thomas Fischbach, president of a German federation of doctors for children and adolescents (BVKJ), told the Die Welt newspaper.

    Meanwhile, at Oktoberfest…

    The drunken debauchery often leads to fights, aggressive behavior, and bierleichen — so-called “beer corpses,” which is what locals call the many passed out drunks lying on the hill behind the tents.

    Source

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      6 months ago

      I don’t smoke pot, I don’t like the smell, I had edibles like twice in my life, and don’t plan on repeating the experience.

      I still think that there is little logical reason to forbid people from consuming, and that it is especially hypocritical to do so while alcohol and tobacco are legal, and freely available.

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        6 months ago

        For the record, I hate alcohol and tobacco just as much and think we should have stuck with Prohibition. No mind-altering substances should be legal.

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    6 months ago

    I honestly don’t think legalising is the best path looking at SF, California reporting after harm reduction campaign. Maybe empathetic rehabilitation.

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        6 months ago

        Yes. While cannabis is unproblematic to most users, some cannabis users experience substance abuse disorders that are hurting their health and social relations. They should receive qualified and empathetic care, not condemnation and criminalisation.

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          Yeah, you’re right, sorry. They’re acting like legalizing pot is done purely to feed addiction and that “empathetic rehabilitation” of those addicted is an alternative to legalization/will make legalization unnecessary, so I still disagree with their original comment, but I shouldn’t have so flippantly dismissed the concept of addiction.

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      If you have underlying issues with anxiety and paranoia, adding marijuana to the mix exacerbates these issues greatly and becomes a poor crutch for dealing with them. I’ve seen friends and family who smoked 2-3x weekly for a few years develop eyebrow-raising mental problems. So I tend to agree.

      Personal anecdote, N=4.

      (Yeah of course, alcohol is just as bad, or worse in extreme cases, but people can usually sense the damage being done to them by it afterwards. Pot’s effects are internal. It’s hard to reflect until it’s too late.)

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        6 months ago

        So legalize it and put effort into treating addictions and mental illnesses. This isn’t very hard.

        Yeah of course, alcohol is just as bad, or worse in extreme cases

        Most if not all cases. Cannabis is objectively less dangerous in practically every way.

        Pot’s effects are internal

        And alcohol’s effects aren’t?

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          So legalize it and put money into treating addictions and mental illnesses. This isn’t very hard.

          Of course. But look around you. Our governments won’t do that, and no political party that could make it to power is pushing a platform like that. I’m more than happy to make kids playgrounds out of concrete if I knew that bandages were free.

          Most if not all cases. Cannabis is objectively less dangerous in practically every way.

          I agree. But it’s not like Alcohol usage will go down once Cannabis is legalized. If anything, people will use them together in a vicious cycle. Throwing baseball bats into a dangerous hockey arena is never a good idea, even if the bats are made of foam.

          And alcohol’s effects aren’t?

          Alcohol’s effects are immediately visible. It’s hard to be an alcoholic and still look at yourself in the mirror happily the next morning. Weed has no such negative phenotype, if anything you will look happier the next morning for abusing it.

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                Not only are you parroting war on drugs talking points, but also I wonder if you realize how thoroughly the origins of it lie in racism.

                I’ll let you do your own google search on who Henry Ainslinger was, and notable quotes from him on the matter of marijuana - but more more recently you may find this bit interesting from Nixon’s drug guy:

                https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/

                “You want to know what this was really all about?” he asked with the bluntness of a man who, after public disgrace and a stretch in federal prison, had little left to protect. “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

                Decades of supposed concern for public health was a cover for conservative control of the population. A pretty popular template for so many other conservative talking points.