• FarrellPerks@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    Came here to say this, it’s wild how people still don’t understand that Wales, Scotland and England are not the same country.

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      Oh really, so if Scotland wanted to join the EU it’d still be part of the UK then? What if Wales decides not to recognize the monarchy - no issues then I bet.

      It’s more wild to see British people be so cucked.

      “We’re totally diffwent countwies, we swear! Ignore the English leash around our necks”

      Either pull a France or Canada or figure out that for all intent and purposes you’re no different than Alabama, USA.

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        Technically Wales has conquered England, at least twice I think, but due to events unknown to myself they and the English monarchy merged and now English Royals get appointed Prince of Wales.

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        Well, I suppose you can’t help stupid right?

        Edit - On second thought, calling people stupid for not understanding what is a fairly complicated political struggle in countries they have likely never been to is a shitty thing to do. My bad.

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          There is no stupid. The 4 countries of the United Kingdom are akin to the states of the United States. No other country will ever recognize them, for one because they’re not even trying to be recognized as individual countries. Second because they literally define themselves as one country, not four. Third because they’re called countries but really they’re provinces or states, the UK just abuses the term country.

          The UK is a constitutional monarchy and parliamentary democracy[o] with three distinct jurisdictions: England and Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own governments and parliaments which control various devolved matters. A developed country with an advanced economy, the UK ranks amongst the largest economies by nominal GDP

          The Acts of Union 1707 declared that the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland were “United into One Kingdom by the Name of Great Britain”.[p][22] The term “United Kingdom” has occasionally been used for the former Kingdom of Great Britain, although its official name from 1707 to 1800 was simply “Great Britain”.[23] The Acts of Union 1800 formed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Following the partition of Ireland and the independence of the Irish Free State in 1922, which left Northern Ireland as the only part of the island of Ireland within the United Kingdom, the name was changed in 1927 to the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”.[24]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

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            You’ve managed to show how little you understand about the independence struggles within the UK. You state “they’re not even trying to be recognised as individual countries” despite the fact that the ruling and largest (Via representation in parliament) party in Scotland is the Scottish National Party. The largest and current coalition partner in power in Northern Ireland is Sinn Fein, and Plaid Cymru is projected to lead the next Welsh government following the next Senedd election next year.

            Each of these parties is seeking Sovereignty and independence for their nations, and their popularity within their respective nations show that there are many people very much interested in that goal too.

            I know this because I’m a political journalist in the UK, and I’m also a Nationalist politician. Throwing the ‘UK’ Wikipedia page out because you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about doesn’t make you look good. I implore you to do a little more research before you spout more nonsense about things you clearly have no idea about.

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              “Seeking”

              Ergo, not actually a different country.

              Gosh no wonder British tabloids are what they are

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              You are making an argument about internal struggles within a country. I honestly do not give one shit what you internally call your regions. But to the rest of the world they are not sovereign nations and are therefore not called countries. This would be like any politician in America arguing that California or Texas are countries because they’ve stated they want to split from the USA at numerous points. This is the same for Catalan or Galicia which have been trying for decades to split from Spain. Hell even Palestine is recognized as a sovereign nation by at least some other countries, this is not true for any of the regions of the UK.

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                Honestly I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore man.

                We’re talking about individual countries that have vastly rich cultures that go back hundreds of years. Comparing that to the essentially fledgling nation that is the USA is crazy. Your states are not like countries at all, what???

                I’ll leave this be now as I can see you just seem to be getting angrier and neither of us is getting anything of use out of this.

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                  So you’re just gonna ignore Spain then… alrighty. I can see that you have no interest in actually conversing.