That’s kind of the same with Catholics and pedophilia for example, to the slightly lesser extend. We shouldn’t conflate regular people who were born into Catholicism, and even who still say they believe in it. And yet, by remaining Catholic they support an organisation which purpose is to spend Nazi gold to protect pedophiles. And they can stop doing that, but don’t.
The problem is, even when you try to separate the two, there is still some initial connection there.
If I meet a Jewish person I’ve never met before, I’m not going to just immediately assume they are a horrible fascist who supports killing children. However, one of the first questions that will enter my head is: “Is this person pro-Israel?” and unfortunately, I can’t just assume the answer is no. It’s also a question I need an answer to before I’m comfortable interacting with said person.
It’s a similar feeling to meeting someone from Russia, or hell, meeting someone from the US. The first, immediate, question I need the answer to is “Does the person I’m talking to support the absolutely unforgivable shit their country is doing?” because if the answer is yes, I don’t want to interact with that person a second more than I have to. The only difference with Jewish people is that they don’t have to be from Israel for that question to come up.
Since this isn’t the first genocide, would it still be fair to be anti religion for this reason? Maybe it’s time for Jews to see what religion does to people, and that even Jews aren’t safe from this garbage.
If you wanna try and convince people to abandon organized religon by educating them on the atrocities organized religon have wrought throughout history then have at it.
I think it is really important to try and not conflate being Jewish with being pro-Israel.
Personally I am not willing to condem everyone of Jewish faith due to Israels actions.
That’s kind of the same with Catholics and pedophilia for example, to the slightly lesser extend. We shouldn’t conflate regular people who were born into Catholicism, and even who still say they believe in it. And yet, by remaining Catholic they support an organisation which purpose is to spend Nazi gold to protect pedophiles. And they can stop doing that, but don’t.
The problem is, even when you try to separate the two, there is still some initial connection there.
If I meet a Jewish person I’ve never met before, I’m not going to just immediately assume they are a horrible fascist who supports killing children. However, one of the first questions that will enter my head is: “Is this person pro-Israel?” and unfortunately, I can’t just assume the answer is no. It’s also a question I need an answer to before I’m comfortable interacting with said person.
It’s a similar feeling to meeting someone from Russia, or hell, meeting someone from the US. The first, immediate, question I need the answer to is “Does the person I’m talking to support the absolutely unforgivable shit their country is doing?” because if the answer is yes, I don’t want to interact with that person a second more than I have to. The only difference with Jewish people is that they don’t have to be from Israel for that question to come up.
It’s only fair to extend that suspicion to meeting Christians as well, the vast majority of Zionists are Christian.
I think I’m more suspicious of Christians than Jews on that front (among many many others)
Right. Not every Jewish person is pro- Isreal, but the only pro Isreal person in my immediate circle is Jewish.
Important to note that SAN’s side effect of stoking this kind of resentment only plays into their hands, ultimately.
Since this isn’t the first genocide, would it still be fair to be anti religion for this reason? Maybe it’s time for Jews to see what religion does to people, and that even Jews aren’t safe from this garbage.
There’s nothing but reasons to be anti-religion.
If you wanna try and convince people to abandon organized religon by educating them on the atrocities organized religon have wrought throughout history then have at it.
Can my first step be to ask you to stop letting religious people off the hook for being genocidal maniacs?