• Outsider9042@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.

    I use NixOS btw

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      6 months ago

      Meanwhile in Gentoo: Still compiling.

      Oh wait: binpkgs, update is done and I don’t have look at NixOS anymore. [=

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      6 months ago

      same here! haven’t borked my system once since using nixOS

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              Ahh man gotta love NVIDIA. Most of my machines have an NVIDIA GPU, but I’ve had only a few minor issues along the way. Mostly from me not reading things correctly.

              Saw issues with flickering electron applications, sleep somehow running the GPU until my battery was drained, hyprland just saying not today and random crashes here and there.

              Systems are pretty stable now, laptop runs fine in hybrid mode (AMD / NVIDIA) and I removed almost all electron applications.

              I’ve found if I can’t figure something out I’ll start a new module for another package. But I guess if it’s something “mission critical” in your case a GPU then it’s pretty hard to do much else.

  • kadu@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.

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      6 months ago

      Plus if anything Debian is more stringent regarding proprietary packages than Arch. Arch package manager will let you install open source drivers or proprietary drivers equally. If adhering to “extreme” moral values is the joke about being labelled vegan, then debian is the vegan one.

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    6 months ago

    Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.

    Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.

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      6 months ago

      If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.

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        6 months ago

        Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.

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          “That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.

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            Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”

            Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.

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              Doing an update is not a mistake.

              Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.

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                It’s not a fact that updates regularly break the system. I’ve been using Arch for like 20 years now and I can count the amount of times that’s happened to me on one hand. I can do the same for CentOS and other distros as well.

                It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.

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        6 months ago

        Seems more like an opportunity to learn then if that’s the case. Fixing things has almost never taken me longer than a full reinstall.

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    I can only laugh at the comics they need to make to justify their distros. I use my Arch machine for work and it works far better than when I was using Debian. Also I am not putting up with an ancient kernel and Nvidia drivers. I even have to setup pipewire manually on debian and on Fedora it’s codecs. Both ridiculous.

  • Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 months ago

    Enuf with the Arch hate already…

    Fedora and Debian are cool,
    but Arch is too,
    their Wiki is amazing and so is the AUR.

    And no I don’t use Arch btw,
    I use Manjaro,
    which has suited me fine for years now.

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        Enough with the Arch hate, already!
        Arch admins just want code sans spaghetti!
        Debian, Fedora, guess they can be cool…
        But us Arch users don’t need no ‘installer tool’

        We all know the Arch wiki’s amazin’,
        (but at the risk of some minor noob hazin’)
        If you can’t get far with their great AUR
        Then Mint might be more where you are

        Now as much as it pains me to say
        There’s no Arch on my box, by the way
        Manjaro’s OS has been my fave for years
        (To be honest Arch leaves many in tears)

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    totally anecdotal… but i’ve installed debian on a bunch of different machines and i’ve never had to “prepare additional installation media” for any weird hardware/firmware/drivers… i just installed the base system and connected ethernet if any non-free stuff is needed. has anyone ever come across an ethernet interface that didn’t work out of the box? maybe it didn’t work 100%, but at least good enough to download the proper firmware to fix?

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      Some wifi drivers. It’s because of the Debian philosophy of never using non-free (as in speech, not beer) software.

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        Thats why i said you just need a few minutes on ethernet… Although i can see the problem these days with a lot of laptops shipping without ethernet ports

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          These days Debian ship with non-free firmware in the default installer, so laptops without ethernet isn’t a problem.

  • Yer Ma@lemm.ee
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    With the amount of time and effort used to make this dumb meme I could have installed Arch a dozen times

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    And here I just spent an afternoon trying to get hibernation working on fedora unsuccessfully

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    I installed Arch once & it took less than 30mins to complete. Still using the same install, as it has literally never broken. This comic literally applies to those people who use Arch incorrectly…

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      About the same. Been using my arch install with KDE for about 5 years with no major problems at all. I use systemd boot so I’ve not had the issue with grub as other people seem to have had.