(Basically a response I made on a community, feel like it belongs here too)

I think toxic podcasts have a big influence on young men, especially those who grew up without strong father figures. My own dad wasn’t perfect (I joke a bit about it on my profile), and many of us went through that risky “2015 phase” of consuming unhealthy online content.

What many politicians and advocates on the left often overlook is that toxic masculinity isn’t solved by telling men to be “less masculine.” You can actually counter unhealthy masculinity with healthy masculinity. Instead of shaming men, we should be teaching a better version of manhood one that includes therapy, emotional intelligence, and being able to talk honestly about what’s going on inside.

As corny as it sounds there’s a reason when there’s a bad take by a misinformed feminist calling all men evil on twitter ganders a response like “This is why men turn right” and sure while that stuff doesn’t work on me anymore, It’s not 2015-2016 there’s still some vulnerable people that unfortunately fall for it, does that mean though that the feminist is wrong in her views? Not really, but I’m not talking about myself I’m talking about a lot of men that do fall for it.

Most working-class men who grind through 9–5 jobs, going from shift to shift, are worried about affordability and stability. If someone comes along and says “I’m going to make your life easier,” that’s who they’ll vote for even if it’s Trump. You can call them naïve or say the leopards ate their face or whatever , but the reality is that many of these men are desperate for change. And they’ll keep voting for whoever promises that change. When society pushes these men aside or dismisses them, some end up looking for someone to blame. That’s when you get people saying, “Women are the reason my life is hard,” or “Jews control everything.”

Of course, some people are genuinely racist or sexist, and there will always be trolls who just want attention. But why do those trolls exist in the first place? Often it’s because they feel insignificant, and attaching themselves to extreme movements gives them a sense of identity and purpose they don’t have otherwise.

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    If someone comes along and says “I’m going to make your life easier,” that’s who they’ll vote for even if it’s Trump. You can call them naïve or say the leopards ate their face or whatever , but the reality is that many of these men are desperate for change. And they’ll keep voting for whoever promises that change. When society pushes these men aside or dismisses them, some end up looking for someone to blame.

    I was with you until this part. If you’re too stupid to do a bare minimum of investigation about the person you’re voting for to learn that they’re a lying, orange, racist, bigoted, pedophile, sack of shit you deserve to be pushed aside. You deserve a hell of a lot worse.

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      Yeah because Kamala had it all right? Not american but you’ve talked so much shit about Trump while defending and supporting muslim terrorism that I’m having a really hard time believing anything a left leaning person from america says. You’re lost and broken and common sense has left you so long ago you forgot how to think for ypurself.

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        What the fuck are you talking about? I didn’t say a fucking thing about Kamala or in support of Muslim terrorism.

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      Well, my whole point about affordability is that a lot of people don’t have the time or energy to mostly care about anything else, I mean a lot of good intentioned people do care about social issues but unless you improve their material position then they will not care, Trump promised that he would improve their living conditions and yeah I knew it was bs, but they didn’t, do they deserve it yeah probably however my point is a lot of us have the luxury to talk about social issues, most people do not, most people suffer upon really bad conditions.

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        Nah, there’s a difference between “not caring about social issues” and supporting Trump, all you have to do is listen to him speak (which you’d have to do to hear him promise to make things cheaper) to know he’s full of shit and a hateful moron. He can’t string three sentences together without making shit up and contradicting himself. It’s not forgivable, I don’t care what their situation is. The only solace in Trump tanking the economy is that those idiots are getting what they deserve. Besides all that affordability IS a “social issue”.